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mr.spam 11-18-2007 03:02 PM

Checking it down
 
Home game, S&G, first 3 pay, one shortstack on button, 3 players left. Shortie moves all-in, sb thinks for a while and makes the call. BB thinks for a while too and says "Whell, I have a decent hand which can easily knock shortie out too. How about I call and we check it down?" SB agrees but button protests that they can't talk about this and that they can't agree to check it down.
What's the ruling here? How improper behaviour is this? I've heard this before but don't know the ruling about this...

Taso 11-18-2007 04:11 PM

Re: Checking it down
 
Very improper behavior, its equivalent to collusion.

I don't know what the ruling is either. I'm pretty sure you just say "dont do that again, its cheating", because most likely they had no idea that it is cheating. If they did it again, I might be inclined to give the button the chips he could have won (from SB and BB) and let the SB/BB play the hand however they want.

^I don't think that's the "correct" decision, but it seems fair to me.

EasilyFound 11-18-2007 04:21 PM

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Definately not kosher. I'd be tempted to rule that the BB is out of the hand. But I'm sure that ain't kosher either.

psandman 11-18-2007 04:23 PM

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You should have both been penalized for this outright act of collusion. While it is perfectly acceptable for you two to check it down, it is completely unacceptable for you to discuss it and agree to check it down.

Shaqizzle 11-18-2007 04:47 PM

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Should have winked every so slightly while checking.

Pot Odds RAC 11-18-2007 05:13 PM

Re: Checking it down
 
Was sitting at a Cash game at a Local Casino the other day and the guy sitting next to me asked if I wanted to Check Down when we were the only two in to see the Flop. I had a weak Ace and just said: "Sure."

Felt a little odd, but I guess it is no worse than the BB & SB deciding to Chop when everyone folds around.

Taso 11-18-2007 05:26 PM

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True, that's different, heads up you can do about whatever you want.

psandman 11-18-2007 06:26 PM

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Was sitting at a Cash game at a Local Casino the other day and the guy sitting next to me asked if I wanted to Check Down when we were the only two in to see the Flop. I had a weak Ace and just said: "Sure."

Felt a little odd, but I guess it is no worse than the BB & SB deciding to Chop when everyone folds around.

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In a heads up hand in a cash game this is not a big deal. however keep in mind some rooms will not enforce the agreement if he decides to bet, and it also may make other players feel there is collusion going which can be bad for the game.

psandman 11-18-2007 06:28 PM

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True, that's different, heads up you can do about whatever you want.

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This is not true. There are things you can not do heads up, at least in well run games.

Taso 11-18-2007 07:11 PM

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