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matrix 11-05-2007 06:29 AM

A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $114.41
BB: $98.38
UTG: $129.76
MP: $141.21
Hero (CO): $254.52
BTN: $189.03

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, Hero ???

Villain had his stack before I sat and is playing 18/12/3.

Hero is playing ~30/20/3 is raising lots in LP due to goot cards mostly but isn't making it to SD often and probably looks like a bit of a lagtard.

Whats the plan?

Calling and c/f a flop without a fd or an Ace feels like weaksauce. It feels like this villain isn't 3betting here without a Ace that dominates me or JJ+ very often.

Does the plan change much if 3bettor is in the blinds so that I'm IP after the flop?

With 100bb stacks is folding to the 3bet standard?

Jamougha 11-05-2007 06:32 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
fold...

Daddy Warbucks 11-05-2007 06:32 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
These hands play pretty poorly OOP(and not much better in position) in 3 bet pots. You're just not going to flop yahtzee often enough. I raise or fold here depending on the 3 bettors tendencies.

ofishstix 11-05-2007 06:33 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
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It feels like this villain isn't 3betting here without a Ace that dominates me or JJ+ very often.

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if you think his range is that narrow, then folding has gotta be the best

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Does the plan change much if 3bettor is in the blinds so that I'm IP after the flop?

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of course. if you were oop then there wouldn't even be a question of whether or not to fold. being IP makes this much closer, though fold is still good.

shpanko 11-05-2007 07:28 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
fold, 89s is a different story. Don't get me started on T8s...

primate 11-05-2007 07:52 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
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These hands play pretty poorly OOP(and not much better in position) in 3 bet pots. You're just not going to flop yahtzee often enough. I raise or fold here depending on the 3 bettors tendencies.

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Fold. No question.

Montezuma21 11-05-2007 08:00 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
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fold, 89s is a different story. Don't get me started on T8s...

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So am i not the only one who's noticed that T8s= the immortal nuts?

Tib 11-05-2007 08:09 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
fold here. 3bet sometimes

Unknown Soldier 11-05-2007 09:05 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
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fold here. 4bet never

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Daddy Warbucks 11-05-2007 09:09 AM

Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.
 
Nits.


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