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oh boy 11-10-2007 03:05 PM

i suck at this spot, KK
 
villain is tag 18/13 he seems standard/not running crazy.

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SB ($502.45)
Hero ($242.90)
UTG ($186)
MP ($305.10)
Button ($181)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, UTG calls $20.

Flop: ($57) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $120</font>,


i dont beat much here

TheJokerIsWild 11-10-2007 03:06 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
Stick it in and hope for AQ or flush draw, but probably lose to QQ.

Clever Nickname 11-10-2007 03:12 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
Just stick it in. You can't fold KK here in a reraised pot.

oh boy 11-10-2007 03:32 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
i understand im not suppose to fold KK in reraised pot but it seems im SA/WB. i mean he's pretty nitty and i really dont think there are that many hands in his range that i am beating here.

TheJokerIsWild 11-10-2007 03:41 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
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i understand im not suppose to fold KK in reraised pot but it seems im SA/WB. i mean he's pretty nitty and i really dont think there are that many hands in his range that i am beating here.

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I agree with you and that's why I said stick it in and probably lose to QQ. I think it's really really close and folding is not a bad option. I seriously think this can go either way, but I like pushing.

What was the result?

scallop 11-10-2007 03:43 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
You are never slightly ahead. You are either WA/WB.

I think you can fold this. I mean his stats sugest he is pretty standard. He might not even call a 3-bet w AQ.

dergitarrist 11-10-2007 03:49 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
I'll never fold in this spot, no matter against whom.. Even 18/13 nit-tags get fed up if you push them around too much and might call slightly loose in position.

I end up giving him QQ+, AQs, AQo, AsKs, KQs, QJs, KQo which you're 62:38 against. Call that optimistic and take away the QJ and KQ and you're still 52:48 which makes it +ev with the money already in the pot etc. pp.

Folding this is a major mistake, IMO.

On a sidenote.. In this spot, don't see him raising QQ too often. But that may vary depending on your image and your opponent.

Lucky 11-10-2007 03:52 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
get the rest in. You're only worried about AA/QQ here. Unlikely he'll play QQ this way, so mostly worried about AA.

But he can have AQ/AcJc/JcTc/JTs. You're probably beaten, but I dont think you're worse than 32% here, especially if he's decent.

sh58 11-10-2007 04:22 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
meh. just get it in, you can't fold this

ikestoys 11-10-2007 04:24 PM

Re: i suck at this spot, KK
 
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i understand im not suppose to fold KK in reraised pot but it seems im SA/WB. i mean he's pretty nitty and i really dont think there are that many hands in his range that i am beating here.

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you got enough of your stack in here to just go with it... you should be playing loose enough to make this profitable.


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