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hra146 11-27-2007 02:19 PM

NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
Guy had fairly TAGgy stats so I figured 3bet>fold>call preflop. Once he called and the dry A-hi board hits I was a little clueless.

His pf calling range is relatively small I imagine. JJ+,AQs+.

Cbetting this flop will possibly get a call from his entire range. He might float me with all pairs, slowplay his AA and maybe too scared to raise AK in a WA/WB situation.

So I check planning to call any bet. I do that and Im quite lost on the turn. Fold or Shove?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($58.36)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($36.20)
MP ($49.25)
CO ($103.53)
Button ($66.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($13.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $9.75</font>, Hero calls $9.75.

Turn: ($33.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $20.75</font>

derosnec 11-27-2007 02:36 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
i dunno if i'm 3betting AQo against an MP open

Baintz 11-27-2007 02:36 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
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Cbetting this flop will possibly get a call from his entire range.

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Then surely you should be betting this flop?

bravos1 11-27-2007 02:54 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
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Cbetting this flop will possibly get a call from his entire range.

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Then surely you should be betting this flop?

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Absolutely.. please bet this flop, especially if he is calling w/ his entire range.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,300,781 games 26.140 secs 88,017 games/sec

Board: 3s 8h Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.815% 19.88% 04.93% 457401 113533.50 { JJ+, AQs+ }
Hand 1: 75.185% 70.25% 04.93% 1616318 113533.50 { AhQd }

LiveNow 11-27-2007 03:05 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
bet flop for sure imo. Top pair GK in a 3b pot.

djj6835 11-27-2007 03:09 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
1. Don't like the 3 bet if you actually think his range is that tight.

2. I don't think anybody's range is that tight

3. Super easy shove. It is an ace high flop in a rr pot and luckily you have one.

infinity235 11-27-2007 03:10 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
Given stack sizes, pot size and flop texture, I'm ready to play for stacks... PF is fine IMO, however I do bet out on this flop.

hra146 11-27-2007 03:19 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
I meant once he called the 3bet his range is relatively tight (most peoples range is, I guess).

Betting this flop while getting a call from all of his range is ofcourse profitable, however, I will be giving up any potcontrol. If I bet this flop and he calls, I will have to bet the turn and be committed to call an AI raise. If I bet the flop and he calls and I check the turn I will have no clue where I stand when he fires.

.,.,m.,.. I think Im overthinking this. Bet flop, CR turn or something.

blaehh

thoman8r 11-27-2007 03:24 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
If his PF 3-bet calling range is JJ+, AQs+ 3-betting with AQ seems bad to me.

djj6835 11-27-2007 03:25 PM

Re: NL50, 3betting AQ from the blinds, bad line?
 
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I meant once he called the 3bet his range is relatively tight (most peoples range is, I guess).

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I know. I find it hard to believe anybody's calling range is that tight.


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