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ThePlan 01-25-2007 06:26 PM

200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
villian is running at 51/12/1.75 over 40+ hands

i'm at 28/24/2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($237.45)
MP ($184.35)
CO ($189)
Button ($449)
SB ($198)
Hero ($233.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
4 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero raises to $9</font>, SB raises to $53</font>, Hero raises to $233.3</font>, SB calls $146 (All-In).

Flop: ($432.30) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($432.30) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($432.30) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $432.30

amoeba 01-25-2007 06:30 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
how often does he reraise?

stats mean nothing.

AbreuTime 01-25-2007 06:31 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
LOLHeTrappedYou.

Seriously though, if you have been running over him when he limps, his line makes sense. With you running at 28/24, it makes sense for him to limp high pocket pair. On the other hand, he could be doing this with 55+, AK. I probably play it the same, and I don't see folding. His large reraise feels like it could easily be a lower pp. But then again, I am a calling station...

AbreuTime 01-25-2007 06:36 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
[ QUOTE ]
how often does he reraise?

stats mean nothing.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think it matters if he is 18/15 or 40/30 or 50/10. If hero had not been active, raising SB's limps, I would fold this easily. I would fold AK here, since he rarely does this with &lt;AQ. I think villain's range is predominately pocket pairs.

He wouldn't have anything close to reliable reraise stats after 40 hands. 54/12 tells you a little about his pf play.

ThePlan 01-25-2007 07:10 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
Does his huge reraise preflop indicate anything? Can I assume his range has me beat, or can I include like 88+ too? At the time, I couldn't see him doing this with aces or kings. I put him on a lower pair then me, and he was making his play because he knew I would raise, thought he had the best hand, and didn't wanna play postflop with me.

For the record, he had aces ... but do you think he'll normally have this?

gezuz 01-25-2007 07:45 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
this line is pretty transperent of a big hand IMO.

Hercules 01-25-2007 07:53 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
This can have many PP`s and AK/AQ/ as already said.
I would have prolly also pushed because his big reraise.
On the other side: If he reraises small, his hand would be pretty transparent. He limp - small rr is the way many donks play AA/KK...
I guess this guy just owned you.
But with your image/playing stlye you have to stack off here. He could really do this with plenty of other stuff.

goofyballer 01-25-2007 08:21 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
In a blind battle, against a dude playing over half his hands, who's sick of getting run over, when you have queens.....if he has AA/KK then I say "well played donk", but that's a lot of coincidences that have to be discounted for you to put him squarely on those two hands. I like it.

einherjar 01-25-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 200nl QQ preflop ... i\'m lost
 
very standard


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