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Sibelius 11-23-2007 07:16 PM

55 against aggro
 
BB is a LAG 51/36/3.2. He loves to get tricky with all kind of draws. But he's not an idiot or SD-bound (WTSD 37)

pf Hero is on the button 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, hero calls

flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB bets hero calls

turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, hero checks

river: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks hero checks

FlopYouDead 11-23-2007 08:05 PM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
I think you have to reraise flop or turn, if not both. Your hand is good way to often not to raise, much less give both the free card and free showdown. You have the absolute nuts on the river and will get paid off liberally with the way you played it.

Eraserhead 11-23-2007 09:01 PM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
I'd bet river, fold to a c/r. I like the turn value check even if it didn't work this time.

FlopYouDead 11-23-2007 09:34 PM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
Hero has an extremely vulnerable hand that figures to be best on a 2 flush board with straight draw possibilities. We have no idea what a safe card is.

Why would this be a value check?

Eraserhead 11-23-2007 10:07 PM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
Well, what I'm thinking is that we cannot call down a turn c/r and it's likely given that villain is aggro that he will bet river with a worse hand if we check turn. Also, I don't see him folding almost any hand if we bet turn. I think he A) has a draw which he wants to c/r ("he loves to get tricky with all kind of draws") or B) Wants to SD his A high and will not fold to a turn bet.

On river, in case of A) we can collect a bet if he bluffs his missed draw. B) Bet if checked to, fold to a raise.

FlopYouDead 11-24-2007 12:19 AM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
So we don't bet turn because he wants to raise a worse hand in which case we have to fold? Or he'll call with ace high? These seem like arguments for betting. What am I missing? He's a donk let him raise.

DrVanNostrin 11-24-2007 01:13 AM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
Good job nailing that flop. Now get some money in there. The BB will think you're FOS on this board and will often continue to bluff even after being raised on the flop. He'll also call down very thin.

Oink 11-24-2007 01:18 AM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
not betting this turn is terrible

Eraserhead 11-24-2007 06:30 AM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
Wow, I'm going to think about this since it's obvious that I'm wrong. Just for the record, do we call down a turn c/r? Then what rivers are we folding? Just the 9's?

Sibelius 11-24-2007 06:37 AM

Re: 55 against aggro
 
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Just for the record, do we call down a turn c/r? Then what rivers are we folding?

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I have same question. He really did all kinds of tricky plays with his flush draws. Are we folding a c/r?


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