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lowlife039 11-20-2007 11:01 PM

KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks....did i play too tight?
 
I havent really played a hand so far except where I raised a small pp in late position and got repopped and I flatted to catch a set that didnt come

I know hes good, and I am certainly almost certainly an unknown to him.

His range has to be rather large here given the pre-flop action

PokerStars Game #13367848619: Tournament #67350657, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/20 - 21:24:00 (ET)
Table '67350657 13' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Lee51 (2450 in chips)
Seat 2: FUTURE102 (3430 in chips)
Seat 3: pbdrunks (3170 in chips)
Seat 4: Texas Tea 1 (2865 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: lowlife039 (2655 in chips)
Seat 6: gmaleb (2560 in chips)
Seat 7: H@N$EN (2985 in chips)
Seat 8: tiMbLeTOe (3995 in chips)
Seat 9: mindwise (2890 in chips)
FUTURE102: posts small blind 15
pbdrunks: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lowlife039 [Kd Kh]
Texas Tea 1: folds
lowlife039: raises 60 to 90
gmaleb: folds
H@N$EN: folds
tiMbLeTOe: folds
mindwise: folds
Lee51: calls 90
FUTURE102: calls 75
pbdrunks: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [5s Qc 2d]
FUTURE102: checks
pbdrunks: checks
lowlife039: bets 220
Lee51: folds
FUTURE102: folds
pbdrunks: raises 230 to 450
lowlife039: calls 230
*** TURN *** [5s Qc 2d] [Ad]
pbdrunks: checks
lowlife039: checks
*** RIVER *** [5s Qc 2d Ad] [8d]
pbdrunks: bets 800
lowlife039: folds
pbdrunks collected 1260 from pot
pbdrunks: doesn't show hand

Luxoris 11-20-2007 11:14 PM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
These are the kinds of hands I have the most trouble with against good players. He's gotten decent odds to call preflop with anything promising, and now he check minraises to a totally dry board.

It seems like he could only have AQ, 55, 22, 52, A2s, A5s (the Q two pair hands seem too disconnected for a preflop call?)

So youre a little better than 50/50 on his range, and youve got some outs.

I probably flat it and be happy to get it in with any non-Ace or Q turn, but I could be way off here. Help!

lowlife039 11-20-2007 11:27 PM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
[ QUOTE ]
I probably flat it and be happy to get it in with any non-Ace or Q turn, but I could be way off here. Help!

[/ QUOTE ]

haha see edit

Exitonly 11-20-2007 11:50 PM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
i shove the flop i think

JSchnett 11-20-2007 11:53 PM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
Id shove flop or play it the same if you call.

lowlife039 11-21-2007 12:16 AM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
he made a similar raise later with top pair mid kicker on the turn but then checked the river....so idk maybe he is raising for information against an unknown?

ZBTHorton 11-21-2007 01:33 AM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
Against PBDrunks I'm getting it in on that flop everytime.

ZJ123 11-21-2007 01:35 AM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 

Min 3 bet to induce a shove.

this is why.....

PokerStars Game #13370854045: Tournament #67347581, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2007/11/21 - 00:16:13 (ET)
Table '67347581 14' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: brsavage (80064 in chips)
Seat 3: Jovial Gent (193600 in chips)
Seat 4: pbdrunks (169327 in chips)
Seat 5: charder30 (130325 in chips)
Seat 6: EndlessJ (86746 in chips)
Seat 7: 12443267 (163424 in chips)
Seat 8: dA _ j e T (132384 in chips)
brsavage: posts the ante 400
Jovial Gent: posts the ante 400
pbdrunks: posts the ante 400
charder30: posts the ante 400
EndlessJ: posts the ante 400
12443267: posts the ante 400
dA _ j e T: posts the ante 400
charder30: posts small blind 2000
EndlessJ: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to charder30 [Qs As]
12443267: folds
dA _ j e T: folds
brsavage: folds
Jovial Gent: folds
pbdrunks: raises 7227 to 11227
charder30: raises 20928 to 32155
EndlessJ: folds
pbdrunks: raises 115845 to 148000
charder30: calls 97770 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9h 4c Ah]
*** TURN *** [9h 4c Ah] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [9h 4c Ah 7h] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
charder30: shows [Qs As] (a pair of Aces)
pbdrunks: shows [5s 4s] (two pair, Fives and Fours)
12443267 said, "ouch"
pbdrunks collected 266650 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 266650 | Rake 0
Board [9h 4c Ah 7h 5d]
Seat 1: brsavage folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Jovial Gent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pbdrunks (button) showed [5s 4s] and won (266650) with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 5: charder30 (small blind) showed [Qs As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: EndlessJ (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: 12443267 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dA _ j e T folded before Flop (didn't bet)

furfur 11-21-2007 01:48 AM

Re: KK early in stars 100k vs pbdrunks
 
sick


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