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Scotty. 02-11-2007 09:32 PM

3-Town this Clown?
 
Villain is 30/22/1.5 over ~400 hands. His play seems mediocre.

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.4SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $0.5</font>.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 6.35BB, Sidepot 1: 0.9BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.25BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 6.35BB, Sidepot 1: 2.9BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>

Also, what if the board was 56J2K instead?

PokerSparky 02-11-2007 09:44 PM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
Could you fold to a cap?

Edit: In your second scenario, I'd just call since you can't beat KJ now.

noob_sauce 02-11-2007 09:50 PM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
3-town is spewage IMO... I'm only really concerned about 66/JJ/KK here, X 5 is an afterthought... I think KK plays much more aggro on the flop/turn, so JJ/66 seems more likely... I think we open ourselves up too much with a 3-bet... we are only getting capped here if we're behind...

really what we are banking on here is that villain is incapable of reading boards... you cap out of the BB, and bet on every street... he has to put you on an overpair here...

call river... I'd be much less likely to raise the 56J2K board because of KJ not being counterfeited... eitherway, Call IMO

also, how often do we need to be ahead here to make 3town +EV if we're only getting capped when we are behind?

noob_sauce 02-11-2007 09:53 PM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
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Could you fold to a cap?

Edit: In your second scenario, I'd just call since you can't beat KJ now.

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Getting 17 to 1 (edit: 15.5 to 1)I'd say not, I'd be willing to gamble that he made a mistake reading the board with KJ or got out line with some AK junk for those odds.

gehrig 02-11-2007 10:49 PM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
this is the easiest 3bet ever

ak is played like this basically always. the few combos ur behind get played like this basically never.

Leader 02-12-2007 12:03 AM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
This is AK/KJs pretty much every time. KK seems totally out. JJ and 66 would be pretty retarded given how much strength you've shown. 3/c

gopnik 02-12-2007 01:11 AM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
I'd 3-bet. He's got AK/KQ most of the time here.

Nick C 02-12-2007 04:19 AM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
It looks like a 3-bet to me.

Since it got brought up along the way, I'll say that folding to a cap would be silly.

Oink 02-12-2007 06:58 AM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
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This is AK/KJs pretty much every time. KK seems totally out. JJ and 66 would be pretty retarded given how much strength you've shown. 3/c

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I agree

@OP
In the altenative scenario I just call.

danzasmack 02-12-2007 11:47 AM

Re: 3-Town this Clown?
 
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this is the easiest 3bet ever

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esp. with that turn card. one two 333333

EDIT: even without that turn card - if you are super duper tight then MAYBE a 3-bet doesn't make sense, but then the only hand we are worrying about is KJ really. You hear from smaller sets and you hear from KK. If this guy had KK he hates money.


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