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Smarty 07-28-2007 06:19 PM

Re: JJ on Qxx flop, 30/60 FTP
 
This is the epitome of a drawless board and you have someone cold-calling 2 bets. Fold.

admiralfluff 07-29-2007 12:47 AM

Re: JJ on Qxx flop, 30/60 FTP
 
BB is described as a 'loose-passive'. His flop call might not be very powerful.

DpR 07-29-2007 02:28 AM

Re: JJ on Qxx flop, 30/60 FTP
 
I'd call the flop just for the combined hit a set/retardation from BB factor/maybe we see two cards when a A/K hits the turn. The SB doesnt need a Q of course, but the BB would have to have made a pretty optimistic call to not at least have a Q.

If SB leads the turn, I think you can be pretty sure he has a Q since he is supposed to be decent and has to be concerned about a Q from BB (and even a slowplay from hero). I think you can fold to any turn bet - there certainly is no value in putting in a turn raise, even if you think you are somehow ahead sometimes.

There is at least a longshot that SB has a 7 and BB has 99, but that ia pretty rare, so if the turn goes check/bet, hopefully that reduces the chances of those holdings enough to just give it up (since i guess BB would check 99 there a lot).

So call flop, fold turn.

vmacosta 07-29-2007 03:29 AM

Re: JJ on Qxx flop, 30/60 FTP
 
I think you can peel here cuz an A/K/7 could give you a free shot at the river and a J gives you the nuts.

nath 07-30-2007 02:14 AM

Re: JJ on Qxx flop, 30/60 FTP
 
OK... I don't have the HH handy now, but the turn was a 3 (total rainbow). SB bets, BB calls. Just fold? Seems like that's the majority opinion although people have made cases for each option.


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