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Foldarama_City 08-16-2006 06:32 AM

what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
why would he call this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (twin-caracas)/ ($985)
BB ($927.75)
DaPlaya ($985)
MP1 ($192.25)
MP2 ($868)
CO ($1121.25)
Button (Lyric)/ ($1377)

Preflop: DaPlaya is UTG with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
Lyric: raises $30 to $40
twin-caracas: raises $140 to $180
fitz420: folds
Lyric: raises $1197 to $1377 and is all-in
twin-caracas: calls $805 and is all-in
Flop: ($2372) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($2372) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($2372) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

*** SHOW DOWN ***
twin-caracas: shows [8h 9c] (three of a kind, Fours)
Lyric: shows [As 7s] (three of a kind, Fours - Ace kicker)
Lyric collected $1977 from pot
Final Pot: $2372

fish2plus2 08-16-2006 06:35 AM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
he is fish.

Foldarama_City 08-16-2006 06:42 AM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
he has a lot of money for a fish

Kilillan 08-16-2006 06:49 AM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
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he has a lot of money for a fish

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and?

fish2plus2 08-16-2006 06:51 AM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
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he has a lot of money for a fish

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So does BBuddy.

Born2DogBaby 08-16-2006 09:07 AM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
he knows lyric knows he 3bets light and is capable of 4betting light to try and counter, so he knows his cards have to be live often. so the call isnt really that far from breakeven, and great for metagame since he can get lyric to go easier on the preflop 4bets in future by showing him he doesnt like being pushed around and is willing to gamble.

Bakes 08-16-2006 12:48 PM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
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he knows lyric knows he 3bets light and is capable of 4betting light to try and counter, so he knows his cards have to be live often. so the call isnt really that far from breakeven, and great for metagame since he can get lyric to go easier on the preflop 4bets in future by showing him he doesnt like being pushed around and is willing to gamble.

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So he calls with 98o and thats supposed to make OP tighten up with the 4-bets?

obiedman 08-16-2006 01:32 PM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
it shows that he's willing to gamble. OP might not be comfortable doing that in big pots, so it could slow down his 4bets in that manner.

Bakes 08-16-2006 01:37 PM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
Lyric is properly rolled for these games so he I am sure he is comfortable playing big pots against loose callers, and its not like twin called the AI with a small pair or AJo, it was 98o.

fish2plus2 08-16-2006 05:20 PM

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 
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it shows that he's willing to gamble. OP might not be comfortable doing that in big pots, so it could slow down his 4bets in that manner.

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This is actually a fair point.

When guys start calling huge bets pre flop allin with suited connecters, I usually will be forced to tighten up my reraising range. The last thing I want to do is put a hand like AQ allin against 54s.


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