Strange NL betting rule
 

I ran into this at a casino recently and I still can't seem to get a straight answer from the card room people.

1/2 NL. I am on the button. 6 players see the flop at 10 each. Board comes with a Jh 6s Jd, giving me trips ( J-10). BB bets 15, next player goes all in for 21. I more caller before I raise to 100. But the dealer makes be pull back my bet stating that I can only call since $21 bet since any all in move that equals less than half a raise, i.e., $30, freezes the action for that round meaning that I could only call teh $21 bet. I protest but he holds his ground and makes me take my bet down. The turn is a blank and gets checked to me and I make it a hundred. Get called by the flush draw. And guess what hits the river.

It took me hours to hunt down the answer and although the card room manager finally said the dealer was wrong, several of the dealers still insisted the card room manager was wrong.

Is anyone aware of a general rule where an all in bet which does not amount to a full raise caps the action for that round?

Thanks.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

Hi

I´m not aware of this ruling.

If BB bets 15, you call 15 and player X raises all-in for less than 30 and furthermore there are no more active players, than the BB and you can not re-raise because player X did not complete the bet to 30 and thus his raise is not live.

But ---- you had not yet called the 15 , right ?
Then yes, in every single NL game ( that I know of) you should be able to re-raise as much as you want.

Bashar

EDIT -- I think this thread belongs in the B&M forum.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

Exactly. I had not yet called the bet.

EDIT -- this does belong in the B&M forum. My mistake.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

If hes calling 100 on the turn with FD... He's calling it on the flop... Either way same result [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

yes, the dealer was wrong here.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

The dealer is an idiot and he should be reprimanded. If the Floor and management had any guts he would have been. The rule he was enforcing doesn't take effect until everyone has made some kind of action first - in your case you hadn't.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

The dealer is wrong. All-in bets never close action (unbless they happen to be a cap in a limit game) . The only question is whether an all-in bet reopens action to thjose who have already acted.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

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I protest but he holds his ground and makes me take my bet down.

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At this point, you should stop the action and call the floor.

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If hes calling 100 on the turn with FD... He's calling it on the flop... Either way same result [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Except he picked up the FD on the turn. The flop was rainbow.

Re: Strange NL betting rule
 

If short-stack had called someone's bigger raise, would it have cut off raising by anyone behind him?

Stupid, STUPID ruling by someone who didn't think about what they were doing.

KITN for several dealers and multiple KITN for whomever trained them...

It wouldn't have changed anything in the hand, since you let them make you take it back. Call the floor right away and hold up action until it gets resolved.