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Bill Smith 10-20-2007 05:02 AM

KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
Villian is 42/4/1.5 over 150 hands. He pushed within 3 seconds of my check.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($4.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($20.10)</font>
BB ($8.10)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($29.32)</font>
MP ($4.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.65</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.55, Button calls $0.55.

Flop: ($2.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG calls $1.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($5.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.3</font>, UTG calls $3.30.

River: ($11.65) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG calls $23.87 (All-In), Hero calls $14.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $50.17

terrible 10-20-2007 07:16 AM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
easy fold for me because his preflop range is so wide here.

CruS 10-20-2007 07:31 AM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
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easy fold for me because his preflop range is so wide here.

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This does not make any sense, what do you mean?

BatsShadow 10-20-2007 07:35 AM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
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easy fold for me because his preflop range is so wide here.

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This does not make any sense, what do you mean?

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If the guy is playing 42% of his hands he is more likely to have a 4 or a 5...because his preflop range is so wide.

nutstoyou 10-20-2007 09:59 AM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
I c/c turn. If he checks behind on turn then I bet river. As played I fold river.

Bill Smith 10-20-2007 12:32 PM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
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I c/c turn. If he checks behind on turn then I bet river. As played I fold river.

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I bet the turn because I figured his range includes a lot of 8, diamonds, and pp's and perhaps even bare aces. I hate giving stations free cards.

Any other thoughts from the morning crew before I post results?

terrible 10-20-2007 12:49 PM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
i'm with you on betting the turn for the reasons you mentioned. a turn c/c is giving up a lot of value.

ICMoney 10-20-2007 04:03 PM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
If the board was 44585 I would feel a lot worse about our hand.

As played, I'm not really worried about a 5 here.

I don't think 67 is calling your pfr and cb w/only a GS.

Maybe he thinks AK is the nuts here.

I could see him having anything from 88+,A8s,A4s,A4o.

You need to be good about 35% of the time, but you have &gt;60% equity against that range.

I call and feel pretty good about it.

I'm assuming you lost and would be interested in the results later.

Edit: [b]Didn't realize you were 200bb deep. Thought this was 25nl.

Bill Smith 10-20-2007 05:20 PM

Re: KK on double paired board - Be a Hero?
 
Thought this would be more interesting, but oh well.

Villian shows 99 and MHIG. Well done IC.

I'm starting to learn that even the most passive donks are capable of moves like this, but despite the results I've been second-guessing this call. The wealth of advice seems to favor folding.


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