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donkeykong2 08-01-2007 09:37 AM

Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
While a lot of situations seem intuitive and the correct decision is easily determined, most situations depend on the flow of the game, therefore it is necessary to know the ranges of the players involved in the hand.
my suggestion: anytime you post a hand, you give a description of your range preflop and on the flop, say you raise preflop you tell what other hands you would have raised preflop too, if you raised preflop you tell what part of your raising range you bet/call/fold on the flop given the other players action and the board texture of course. By analysing hands this way the amount of information and skill attained will be far bigger than it is currently as the correct decision for full ranges of hands will be dicussed not only for one hand. We will also be able to spot exploitable play/leaks more easily.

I will give a short example of how it should look like:
preflop: utg, 6 handed game, i raise
raising range (10% of total cards):
big pairs (AA-1010): 2,5%
medium pairs (77-99): 1,5%
big unpaired hands (a9-ak, kq): 6%

bb calls (short decription of bb, dumb idiot calls any 2)

flop comes: Xx Xx Xx
given this board i now:
bet: all pocket pairs (4%)
check: all big unpaired cards (6%)
in this case i had ak and checked.

BB bets amount x.
what does checking range do now?
Ak,Aq (30% of checking range): reraise
others (70% of checking range): fold

i hope you get the idea of this, if you post correctly we can now discuss lots of hands at once and also spot lots of mistakes at once and metagame discussion is possible.

donkeykong2 08-01-2007 09:58 AM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
18 views and no one even even chose anything not even bastard? What is this?

donkeykong2 08-01-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
i would appreciate comments to this too....

Jamougha 08-01-2007 11:30 AM

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No

relativity_x 08-01-2007 11:34 AM

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Bramsterdam 08-01-2007 11:38 AM

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raze 08-01-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
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i would appreciate comments to this too....

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Looks nice but people are too lazy / set in their ways. Do it for your own hands and maybe it'll catch on.

mason55 08-01-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
people are too lazy to even post reads there's no way anyone's ever posting stuff like this. but that doesn't mean you can't!

donkeykong2 08-01-2007 02:18 PM

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i would appreciate comments to this too....

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Looks nice but people are too lazy / set in their ways. Do it for your own hands and maybe it'll catch on.

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yes, i think that s the point. people often just want to hear if they threw away money if they post a hand. I havent played for a month but i will probably post some hands this way if i start again, maybe some hypothetical one too.

tarheeljks 08-01-2007 02:21 PM

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i would appreciate comments to this too....

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Looks nice but people are too lazy / set in their ways. Do it for your own hands and maybe it'll catch on.

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yes, i think that s the point. people often just want to hear if they threw away money if they post a hand. I havent played for a month but i will probably post some hands this way if i start again, maybe some hypothetical one too.

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why would anyone, esp the better players, give out that much detail about their style?


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