Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Nash doesn't apply here. That's for HU.

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Nash not only applies to more than just HU, it applies to more than poker.

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Nash doesn't apply here. That's for HU.

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Nash not only applies to more than just HU, it applies to more than poker.

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Microbet has a beautiful mind...

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Also AMT we fare better against a slightly tighter range than ATC

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you're right, but it looks like the EV difference from when hes pushing ATC vs 90% vs 85% is like within 1 and 2 cents of each other. I'm not good enough to narrow it that much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Thats because you arent bigjoe lol

Imo this is probably a fold even considering meta, especially when the 2 shorties are close in chips AND they play too passive here, meaning you and joe are often just gonna trade off taking pots until one picks up a hand or gets pissed, I really doubt its a $100 mistake though.

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So do you think if I push ATC from the LB the next hand, that bigjoe is folding AKo? What about 88?

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Nash doesn't apply here. That's for HU.

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Nash not only applies to more than just HU, it applies to more than poker.

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Obviously, I just didn't know there were calcs for this and wrongly assumed poster was using push/fold charts.

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Also AMT we fare better against a slightly tighter range than ATC

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you're right, but it looks like the EV difference from when hes pushing ATC vs 90% vs 85% is like within 1 and 2 cents of each other. I'm not good enough to narrow it that much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Thats because you arent bigjoe lol

Imo this is probably a fold even considering meta, especially when the 2 shorties are close in chips AND they play too passive here, meaning you and joe are often just gonna trade off taking pots until one picks up a hand or gets pissed, I really doubt its a $100 mistake though.

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So do you think if I push ATC from the LB the next hand, that bigjoe is folding AKo? What about 88?

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I think he'll fold AK, prob fold 88 but hell call 88 more than AK

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

Game theory's Nash Equilibrium applies to two player games. Calling here is -EV, but since Bigjoe pushes almost ATC here, I dont mind the call. Since he is a regular, and a good one at that, he will probably note the call, push tighter against you, and tell you he's sliding ATC.

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

LOOL. The day I fold AK there to bigjoe is the day I quit poker forever and take up bird watching or something. He just wants you to fold so he can start owning the crap out of you. If the thinks you're capable of folding AK there it just means you're going to get it about 3x worse in the future.

Oh yeah, the correct response there is "What does -$100EV mean?"

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

I agree with people who said, [censored] this hand, fold and then push ATC on his ass until the bubble bursts.

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Game theory's Nash Equilibrium applies to two player games. Calling here is -EV, but since Bigjoe pushes almost ATC here, I dont mind the call. Since he is a regular, and a good one at that, he will probably note the call, push tighter against you, and tell you he's sliding ATC.

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Zergum, please explain Game Theory's Nash Equilibrium and why it doesn't apply to more than two players.

Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?
 

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Game theory's Nash Equilibrium applies to two player games. Calling here is -EV, but since Bigjoe pushes almost ATC here, I dont mind the call. Since he is a regular, and a good one at that, he will probably note the call, push tighter against you, and tell you he's sliding ATC.

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It applies to far more, I made an incorrect assumption as to what the poster I responded to was thinking.