TD hand couple of close call.
 

PokerStars Game #12641878000: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/10/15 - 13:03:24 (ET)
Table 'Wilhelmina' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Seb86 ($219 in chips)
Seat 3: dvice1 ($105 in chips)
Seat 4: jcdgoad ($134 in chips)
Seat 5: danx7 ($116 in chips)
Seat 6: benbo ($107 in chips)
benbo: posts small blind $1
Seb86: posts big blind $3
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Seb86 [3d 2h As 2d 3s]
dvice1: folds
jcdgoad: folds
danx7: raises $3 to $6
benbo: folds
Seb86: calls $3
*** FIRST DRAW ***
Seb86: discards 3 cards [As 2d 3s]
Dealt to Seb86 [3d 2h] [9d 4c 7d]
danx7: discards 2 cards
Seb86: bets $3
danx7: calls $3
*** SECOND DRAW ***
Seb86: stands pat on [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d]
danx7: discards 1 card
Seb86: bets $6
danx7: calls $6
*** THIRD DRAW ***
Seb86: stands pat on [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d]
danx7: discards 1 card
Seb86: checks
danx7: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seb86: shows [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d] (Lo: 9,7,4,3,2)
danx7: mucks hand
Seb86 collected $30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $31 | Rake $1
Seat 2: Seb86 (big blind) showed [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d] and won ($30) with Lo: 9,7,4,3,2
Seat 3: dvice1 folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jcdgoad folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 5: danx7 (button) mucked [4d 8s Qc 5s 2s]
Seat 6: benbo (small blind) folded before the Draw

I would like to have your though on this one as I had (what I believe is at least) a decision to make on about each street.

Pre draw is that a must call ? I liked that I had 2233 and not only 23, leaned me to a call.

Obviously I hit very nice but should I keep the 9 ? he drew 2 and didnt raise so I assumed he didnt improved and thus kept. Was it a must kept if he drew 1 or / and raised ?

After second draw its quite straight forward, I break if he raises (maybe I shouldnt ?).

Should I value bet the river ? as I drew 3 and PAT my hand may seem like a T9875 or something (or even a snowball, I just caugh snowballing a few hands ago by another guy). I still dont think its + ev though.

I had no read on vilain.

I would appreciate if anyone would try to answer point by point as I believe this hand includes some "though" decisions (including what do I do if I get raise after the second draw).

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

please use the converter in the future, its listed in the FAQ.

Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($3/$6) (converter)

SB ($107), Seat 6
Hero ($219), Seat 2
UTG ($105), Seat 3
CO ($134), Seat 4
Button ($116), Seat 5

Button at Seat 5.
SB posts $1. Hero posts $3.

Hand: [3d 2h As 2d 3s]

Round 1: (1.33 SB)

<font color="red">Button raises. </font><font color="green">Hero calls. </font>
Hero discards As 2d 3s. Button takes 2.

Hand: [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d]

Round 2: (4.33 SB)

<font color="red">Hero bets. </font><font color="green">Button calls. </font>
Hero stands pat. Button takes 1.

Hand: [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d]

Round 3: (3.17 BB)

<font color="red">Hero bets. </font><font color="green">Button calls. </font>
Hero stands pat. Button takes 1.

Hand: [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d]

Round 4: (5.17 BB)

Hero checks, Villain checks.

Total pot: (5.17 BB - $31)

Results: (in white)

<font color="white">Total pot $31 | Rake $1

Hero had [3d 2h 9d 4c 7d] and won ($30) with Lo: 9,7,4,3,2
Button had [4d 8s Qc 5s 2s]
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You are a 60% favorite vs the villain' hand range. He is never folding of course, but your still a favorite. I'd be betting the river if you think he would call with 975xx or worse, fold to a raise. This is my standard line, I adjust according to player tendencies of course. I like everything else.

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

Ok, sorry for the hand converter.

Well he would call with a 98xxx, maybe (I dont think so though) even a T8xxx but if it worth all the time where he hit a 96xxx or better ? Also the reason I like to check here is that I may induce a bluff.

What is the standard line if he raises me after the second draw ? I have the nut draw so I dont believe I can consider folding, but should I draw ?

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

Villain would have to be either a retard or a genius to bluff on the river after you check.

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

Well its a 3/6 I see people betting a J in that spot pretty often. I never trully understood if they thought it was a value bet or a bluff though.

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

CR after the first draw is standard, donk betting there misses a bet.

-DeathDonkey

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

Its close, he was pretty passive obv (he improved to a 8542x and didnt raise) but he had a clue on this game he would have raise and I would have been able to 3bet. That was my initial plan.

Also at this level, people can check if they dont improved (sometimes even when they do improve one card).

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

Until people figure out my tendencies i think its better to donk bet/3bet when u 3 draw a monster and check raise when you have a closer spot (like 87642) since your donk bets get raised so often. My default line in your spot would be to c/r draw 1 or bet/call draw 1 (about 50% either way) i dont like keeping this 9, esp the way you played it your just asking for a guy to make some thin bets with rough 8s or better 9s since you look weak and your holding is only a bit stronger than what people usually turn up with in this spot.

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

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CR after the first draw is standard, donk betting there misses a bet.

-DeathDonkey

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and check-raising sometimes misses a bet if the villain hasn't improved (I admit its rare). I prefer the donk bet because it allows you to bet-3-bet since the villain will often raise. On the other side a c/r will often scare opponents from calling the river with a weak hand.

I think its very close, but bet-3-bet is better in a vacuum since the hero started with a 3 card draw.

Re: TD hand couple of close call.
 

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Well its a 3/6 I see people betting a J in that spot pretty often. I never trully understood if they thought it was a value bet or a bluff though.

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There just aren't that many geniuses at 3/6