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ThePhoenix78 11-07-2007 10:55 AM

Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
After a bit of a bad stretch, I decided to withdraw funds from my FTP account and just leave $100 and rebuild a BR. So I'm playing $2 SnGs for now. Off to a solid start with 9 cashes in 16 tries. But had two early bustouts this morning on hands that were decent but not locks. In both cases, I had a sense I was ahead, but my question is whether you think getting all my chips in as I did in both cases was unnecessary at the low blind levels I was at or whether you think I'm likely ahead enough of the time to take that chance.

Hand 1

Second hand of the tourney, so no read at all. After the action to this point, I should probably assume I'm behind QQ-AA, but in just a handful of SnGs at the $2 level, I've seen some pretty bad all-ins, so figured I had decents odds against the range of a typical $2 donk and called. But think that was an unnecessary risk to take?

Full Tilt Poker Game #4096299628: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (31121460), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:04:28 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: 1-Fremder- (1,485)
Seat 2: ThePhoenix78 (1,470)
Seat 3: money4420 (1,500)
Seat 4: 45_cents (1,470)
Seat 5: roebuck (1,500)
Seat 6: brucedesbories (1,605)
Seat 7: ICESWH (1,470)
Seat 8: DJ912 (1,500)
Seat 9: Ima Doofus (1,500)
ThePhoenix78 posts the small blind of 15
money4420 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThePhoenix78 [Jh Jd]
45_cents folds
roebuck folds
brucedesbories folds
ICESWH folds
DJ912 folds
Ima Doofus folds
1-Fremder- has 15 seconds left to act
1-Fremder- raises to 60
ThePhoenix78 raises to 210
money4420 folds
1-Fremder- has 15 seconds left to act
1-Fremder- calls 150
*** FLOP *** [8c 8d 2h]
ThePhoenix78 has 15 seconds left to act
ThePhoenix78 bets 275
1-Fremder- raises to 1,275, and is all in
ThePhoenix78 calls 985, and is all in

Hand 2

In this hand, the raiser was raising to 150 for the third hand in a row. He hadn't been crazy all tourney, but I had him labeled as fairly loose-aggressive. Making the big all-in re-raise with TT is perhaps too risky, but I've been reading Collin Moshman's new SnG book and with solid, but vulnerable hands like AK, JJ, TT, I think he recommends such play during the middle levels. I could be wrong though. What do you think?

Full Tilt Poker Game #4096375315: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (31121604), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:24:07 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: apeart (1,480)
Seat 2: Krumpf77 (1,695)
Seat 5: SpecialBonus (1,515)
Seat 6: ThePhoenix78 (1,385)
Seat 7: FK LASER (2,505)
Seat 8: NoSkillz1 (2,980)
Seat 9: Kriie (1,940)
Kriie posts the small blind of 25
apeart posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThePhoenix78 [Tc Th]
Krumpf77 raises to 150
SpecialBonus folds
ThePhoenix78 raises to 1,385, and is all in

Acey 11-07-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
Hand 1 you can spare chips, hand 2 is icm problem and the push is probably good against a loose guy.

ThePhoenix78 11-07-2007 11:46 AM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
Any other opinions?

TruFloridaGator 11-07-2007 11:49 AM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
Converter, please.

1)Easy call.
2)Shove, 77+,AJ seems like a probable opening range. ICM will probably say it's a shove.

pokerbasti 11-07-2007 01:03 PM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
call in 2nd hand!

Little John 11-07-2007 01:09 PM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
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Converter, please.



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sippin_criss 11-07-2007 01:29 PM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
both are perfect.

Takeover_inc 11-07-2007 01:36 PM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
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both are perfect.

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Webster 11-07-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
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Converter, please.

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Show me one that works with FT!

NONE work that are listed in the FAQ!

Perplexity 11-07-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament
$2 + $0.25 Sit & Go
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">1470</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">1605</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">1470</font>)
MP3 (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">1485</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">1470</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-flop: (45, 9 players) Hero is SB J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">6 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN raises to 60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to 210</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, BTN calls 150

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (495, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets 275</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN goes all-in 1275</font>, Hero calls 985

BTN lost -1485
Hero lost -1470


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