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pdoran10 09-24-2007 08:01 AM

200nl QQ stupid spot
 
Villan in this hand is a relative unknown. seems a bit looseish, passiveish so far, but no solid read as of yet. no real history other than he has seen me 3 bet a few times and i have been active. What to do SSNL?


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $415.20
BB: $502.45
UTG: $110.20
MP: $399.55
CO: $398.00
Hero (BTN): $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $6.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $18.00

Flop: ($51) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $38.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $76.00</font>

sixhigh 09-24-2007 08:15 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
Without history I'd probably fold here. This might be a stupid move with JJ or a bluff with AK, but i guess this is KK+/Set way more often if he isn't tricky/aggro postflop.

VPIP100 09-24-2007 08:25 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
I call and get it in on the river, people tend to overplay mediocre hands if you have been active.

Its still a nasty spot tho.

Wolfram 09-24-2007 08:27 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
arr-eeen

2Paul2 09-24-2007 08:29 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
Fwiw i rarely fold here but feel like i run into KK+ way to often.

Kapten 09-24-2007 09:53 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
He obviously wants to play for stacks so I expect to see KK+ here a lot. I would probably call on flop, and fold to agression on turn.

dragonystic 09-24-2007 09:59 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
i vote for a shove

l3auble 09-24-2007 10:23 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
personally i used to call the flop and plan to re-eval in spots like this and i think it is absolutely horrible to do so. they are ALWAYS betting the turn here so make a decision on the flop about the hand.

wish we had more info about villain. at any rate i think it's very close between all in and fold but think i'd probably fold as his range has to be tilted towards KK+

Nielsio 09-24-2007 10:28 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
I think I can find a fold; they tend to just call the flop with draws or Tx type hands.

Sometimes they are getting out of line with 55 though.

I believe your reraise preflop is too big; it sets villain up to FU call you preflop and FU minraise you on the flop. Whereas otherwise they just play their own passive ways. So this is where reads come into play.

Bad Beat Maker 09-24-2007 11:06 AM

Re: 200nl QQ stupid spot
 
Against a loose/passive I would say all in on this flop. Reason being I could see JJ here 60% of the time against these types of players.


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