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chisness 02-26-2007 07:46 AM

Gift tax question
 
Scenario: someone from the UK gives me (US citizen) a $50,000 wedding gift.

Is there a special gift tax on this or do I simply owe income tax as if my income had increased by the gift value? What about for property? Same thing?

jively 02-26-2007 11:29 AM

Re: Gift tax question
 
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Scenario: someone from the UK gives me (US citizen) a $50,000 wedding gift.

Is there a special gift tax on this or do I simply owe income tax as if my income had increased by the gift value? What about for property? Same thing?

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You don't have to file anything and you don't owe any tax. You can receive any amount.

-Tom

squiffy 02-26-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98968,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=164872,00.html

jively 02-26-2007 12:54 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
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http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98968,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=164872,00.html

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A. Your links don't work. Use the "URL" link under "Instant UBB Code" when you are creating or editing your message.

B. The gift tax applies to US citizens who give money to others. It does not apply when a US citizen receives it.

-Tom

Corpsebean 02-26-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
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http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98968,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=164872,00.html

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A. Your links don't work. Use the "URL" link under "Instant UBB Code" when you are creating or editing your message.

B. The gift tax applies to US citizens who give money to others. It does not apply when a US citizen receives it.

-Tom

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100% sure on that? And is there a limit?

Hypothetically if I received 100K in 2006 from someone, I don't have to do ANYTHING about it in regards to the IRS.

jively 02-26-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
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100% sure on that? And is there a limit?

Hypothetically if I received 100K in 2006 from someone, I don't have to do ANYTHING about it in regards to the IRS.

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Yes, I am sure. If you hypothetically gave me more than $12K of your gift, you have to file a form (but not pay any tax) and I have to do nothing.

-Tom

APXG 02-26-2007 05:56 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
Ssshhhh, don't talk about this too much [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

chisness 02-26-2007 07:44 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
Does the gift giver owe any tax for giving a gift or just for the original income?

jively 02-26-2007 11:41 PM

Re: Gift tax question
 
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Does the gift giver owe any tax for giving a gift or just for the original income?

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"Original income?" Be careful with words. Let's say my friend earned $1.5 million in 2006, and paid income tax on the income. After tax, he has $1 million that he took out of the bank and has in cash in his closet.

Now in 2007 he gives my $1 million in cash. He owes no tax on it because he paid the tax in 2006, and he has no income in 2007.

For gift tax purposes, he gives me $1 million, and he has to file a gift tax return for 2007 showing that he gave a non-spouse US citizen more than $12,000 for the year. He does not owe any tax.

I take the $1 million tax free. I do not have to file anything.

The $988,000 he gave me over $12,000 starts to use up his unified credit. He won't be able to give much more to non-spouse US citizens over his lifetime before he does have to begin paying the actual gift tax.

Now, why do all the people here have friends giving them more than $12,000 in a year? How can I meet these friends of yours?

-Tom

APXG 02-27-2007 03:22 AM

Re: Gift tax question
 
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The $988,000 he gave me over $12,000 starts to use up his unified credit. He won't be able to give much more to non-spouse US citizens over his lifetime before he does have to begin paying the actual gift tax.


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Begin paying taxes to who? This guy has nothing to do with the US whatsoever I assume. He paid income tax in his country, now wants to give gifts. Why would this ever be taxed or use up any kind of credit? He's never even heard of the IRS...

Also, a random thought - what if a person loans you $1 mil USD deferred for 99 years (even if he is a US citizen)?


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