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DawnToDusk 11-28-2007 04:57 PM

10NL - I thought I was going to Valuetown
 
I have no PT as I have been trying to work on just getting reads and my hand reading skills. Heres the hand I just observed before where villain makes a huge C/RAI (he tables top two).

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.70
UTG+1: $8.75
Hero: $10
Button: $3.75
SB: $2.75
BB: $3.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.35, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.7</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $8.35</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $2.65</font>.
Uncalled bets: $5 returned to UTG+1.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $8.75)


River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $8.75)


Results:
Final pot: $6.1

So with that being said what do you think of this hand? I feel like the bet on the river is really thin if even +EV at all.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2.95
UTG+1: $3.15
CO: $4.80
Button: $13.10
Hero: $9.45
BB: $3.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.9</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.25</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, Button calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $4.3</font>, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: $19

jack492505 11-28-2007 05:04 PM

Re: 10NL - I thought I was going to Valuetown
 
what were you hoping to get value from on the river?

DawnToDusk 11-28-2007 05:11 PM

Re: 10NL - I thought I was going to Valuetown
 
Thats why I thought it was so thin. I thought I might get something from 55-88 or maybe a nine if the vill got to the river with something like A9s.

I figured I would of been played back at some if he had a J. Obviously I have only seen him play one hand fairly aggressive after the flop but that also doesn't mean he will be aggressive with just TP.

Monster207 11-28-2007 06:47 PM

Re: 10NL - I thought I was going to Valuetown
 
I think this is definitely -ev. Slow down on the turn, just because this is a rr pot doesn't mean its wrong to check. I think by checking the turn you might be able to get some draws to possibly bluff at it and you have a shot at keeping the pot relatively small when your hand only has some show down value. On the river you are being called by a better hand 98% of the time.


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