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g0lfa 11-15-2007 06:19 PM

100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
Villain seems solid tag, hero has shown down only good hands and won two allins so far, one with AK and one with top pair on flush draw board.



PokerStars Game #13261075658: Tournament #66631016, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/11/15 - 17:12:27 (ET)
Table '66631016 20' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: AJKHoosier1 (61176 in chips)
Seat 2: tumy2007 (51200 in chips)
Seat 3: JChiles915 (9550 in chips)
Seat 4: aconsuma (68988 in chips)
Seat 5: fabsoul (46048 in chips)
Seat 7: FishList_net (64418 in chips)
Seat 8: Annette_15 (20276 in chips)
Seat 9: krossmajo (45074 in chips)
AJKHoosier1: posts the ante 125
tumy2007: posts the ante 125
JChiles915: posts the ante 125
aconsuma: posts the ante 125
fabsoul: posts the ante 125
FishList_net: posts the ante 125
Annette_15: posts the ante 125
krossmajo: posts the ante 125
JChiles915: posts small blind 600
aconsuma: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aconsuma [Kc Ah]
fabsoul: raises 1800 to 3000
FishList_net: calls 3000
Annette_15: folds
krossmajo: folds
AJKHoosier1: folds
tumy2007: folds
JChiles915: folds
aconsuma: raises 10000 to 13000
AJKHoosier1 said, "her husband aint bad either"
fabsoul: folds
FishList_net: raises 51293 to 64293 and is all-in
aconsuma: ????

Yoshi63 11-15-2007 07:55 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
If his range were KK+/AK only (and weighted evenly), this would be almost exactly neutral cEV. It's hard to imagine his range changing too much from this, so it's definitely close.

zizazziza 11-15-2007 08:15 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
call. he might think you are squeezing. I mean he is calling a UTG raise (which is only a 2.5x raise) and then shoves. This is a lot of PP and worse hands,

adanthar 11-15-2007 08:20 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
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call. he might think you are squeezing. I mean he is calling a UTG raise (which is only a 2.5x raise) and then shoves. This is a lot of PP and worse hands,

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no, it really isn't

ImYrHukelbry 11-15-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
It sucks but I fold it, lately when ever I am seeing an ep flat it's the nuts with a rr/ai.

Todd Terry 11-15-2007 08:25 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
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If his range were KK+/AK only (and weighted evenly), this would be almost exactly neutral cEV. It's hard to imagine his range changing too much from this, so it's definitely close.

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You think he's not doing this with QQ? JJ is a bit closer, but JJ call and then squeezed gets shoved in these threads always. I think you have to call here.

Bond18 11-15-2007 08:35 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
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call. he might think you are squeezing. I mean he is calling a UTG raise (which is only a 2.5x raise) and then shoves. This is a lot of PP and worse hands,

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no, it really isn't

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Agreed. An optimistic range here is TT+/AK, though i wonder if he'll flat again with AA to the reraise. I'm not sure.

PBFan 11-15-2007 08:37 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
i say JJ here or 1010 can't really be thinking any other hand.
results?

d2themfi 11-15-2007 11:47 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
this seems like a instamuck, he can def be flatting here with AA, KK, AK, and its super doubtful he is 4betting with AQ here

furfur 11-15-2007 11:53 PM

Re: 100r, deep stacks, tricky spot
 
I can't see anything other than AA,KK or maybe QQ here. You're too deep and not get good pot odds against that range. Fold.


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