Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
 

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I’ve known Baltostar for quite some time, and I don’t find it the least bit surprising that his way of thinking has encountered opposition on a public message forum.

He may have mentioned his background in trading, but he probably neglected to reveal his other talents, and I assure you if you were aware of them, you would not be so quick to dismiss his advice.

From a garage in Ohio, Baltostar developed a visual language he calls the “Logic Alphabet,” in which a group of specially designed letter-shapes are maneuvered like puzzle pieces to reveal the geometric patterns hidden beneath the symbolic web. For the last five years, Baltostar has been exploring the symmetries and relations inherent in these patterns, which he has made manifest in a series of delicately crafted wooden models and in thousands of pages of diagrams.

Baltostar’s work is based on a discovery that the logic on which our computers run is allied with a geometric structure whose form is a tesseract, or four-dimensional cube. Much of his work over the past half-century has aimed at identifying the one, two and three-dimensional subsets of this group of symmetrical relations.

The resulting models and diagrams, often crystalline in nature, constitute a genuine research project in logic while simultaneously passing through distinct aesthetic phases. Most importantly, these models enable us to manipulate logic symbols spatially. The parallels between his research and the game of poker are obvious.

You should listen to what he has to say.

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Interesting, because reading this actually makes me want to NOT listen to what he has to say even more than before

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Am I the only one who assumed that this post was a joke?

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Nope.

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Am I the only one who assumed that this post was a joke?

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LOLZ! Googling "Logic Alphabet" leads you to a press release from 1953 with the exact words Vespa used. So baltostar is actually som old dude named Shea Zellweger who should be like 70+ yo. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
 

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I’ve known Baltostar for quite some time, and I don’t find it the least bit surprising that his way of thinking has encountered opposition on a public message forum.

He may have mentioned his background in trading, but he probably neglected to reveal his other talents, and I assure you if you were aware of them, you would not be so quick to dismiss his advice.

From a garage in Ohio, Baltostar developed a visual language he calls the “Logic Alphabet,” in which a group of specially designed letter-shapes are maneuvered like puzzle pieces to reveal the geometric patterns hidden beneath the symbolic web. For the last five years, Baltostar has been exploring the symmetries and relations inherent in these patterns, which he has made manifest in a series of delicately crafted wooden models and in thousands of pages of diagrams.

Baltostar’s work is based on a discovery that the logic on which our computers run is allied with a geometric structure whose form is a tesseract, or four-dimensional cube. Much of his work over the past half-century has aimed at identifying the one, two and three-dimensional subsets of this group of symmetrical relations.

The resulting models and diagrams, often crystalline in nature, constitute a genuine research project in logic while simultaneously passing through distinct aesthetic phases. Most importantly, these models enable us to manipulate logic symbols spatially. The parallels between his research and the game of poker are obvious.

You should listen to what he has to say.

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This is some very fascinating new information about baltostar.

Here is an interesting logical-physical construction of his, I've found in an interview he gave.

I'm sure the connection to online MTTs is quite clear.




http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issue...garnet-new.jpg

Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
 

god I really hope that was a timecube reference, anyone remember that?

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Baltostar= DS gimmick used to increase traffic

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Baltostar= Charles Wallace

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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
 

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Seat 1: Jemb (14425 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: ogganova (1425 in chips)
Seat 3: noseyboy (10975 in chips)
Seat 4: $kipToMyLou (26850 in chips)
Seat 5: Strakov (8025 in chips)
Seat 6: realmann04 (15275 in chips)
Seat 7: OnlyPlayRagz (8950 in chips)
Seat 8: pucis (14500 in chips)
Seat 9: basebal1b (16725 in chips)
Strakov: posts small blind 100
realmann04: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to basebal1b [Qd Qs]
OnlyPlayRagz: folds
pucis: folds
basebal1b: raises 400 to 600
Jemb: folds
ogganova: folds
noseyboy: folds
$kipToMyLou: raises 1200 to 1800
Strakov: folds
realmann04: folds
basebal1b: folds


It feels incredibly nitty, but this has to be just a fold preflop on the internet often times, right? Against an unknown we'd almost always be willing to get it in when the flop comes 942 here, so is it too silly to just lay the hand down instead of getting our 83BBs in this early?

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This thread kind of went [censored] up but I think it's interesting and should be revived.

The issue is: WTF, fold QQ to a button raise with 83BBs behind?

The questions are, does shoving only get called by better hands and JJ and AK sometimes (i.e. not enough)? Does that matter (i.e. if JJ/AK/worse doesn't put much more/anything else in UI once we call or we can be taken off the hand)

If we don't shove, should we fold because while we are clearly ahead of villain's 3b range, we will find the hand too difficult to play OOP?

Baltostar, PLEASE don't respond. Everyone else, if Baltostar does respond, PLEASE don't respond to him.

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Balt is the reason I read HSMTT

keep up the good work, post more hands they are the most entertaining but the terrible logic and analysis is a close 2nd.

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I call and I don't think its all that close.