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Dude, 5 conference games IN A ROW. Well, with a bye. But FIVE CONFERENCE GAMES!!!

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You want to see tough schedules? Here is USC 2008 and 2009.

2008:
@ Virginia
Ohio State
@ Oregon State
Arizona State
@ Washington State
@ Arizona
Washington
California
@ Stanford
Oregon
Notre Dame
@ UCLA

2009
San Jose State
@ Ohio State
@ Washington
Washington State
@ California
Arizona
@ Notre Dame
Oregon State
@ Oregon
@ Arizona State
Stanford
UCLA

If USC had the 2009 schedule this year it might have been the most brutal schedule of all time. 4 teams who at one point were top 5, all away.

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vs illinois in st louis
southeast missouri at home
nevada at home
buffalo at home
at nebraska
ok state at home
at texas
colorado at home
at baylor
k state at home
at iowa state
kansas in kc



pretty much no differnet then this year for mizzou switch texas with oklahoma....illinois game will be a matchup of great teams

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This is a link to a grid showing every SEC school:


http://secfootball.itgo.com/2008schedule.html


edit: There seem to be a few gaps (Ark only shows 10 games with only 2 non-conference), but it shows all the conference games and all the non-conference that have been shceduled for a while.

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USC is so far ahead of the curve on OOC scheduling it is to weep. They go with at most one cupcake a year despite having to play a 9 game BCS conference schedule.

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-UF opens with Hawaii


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I wish they did a neutral field thing in LA or something. Not going to happen obviously, but it would make it a lot more interesting. UF is obviously the better team but traveling 5000 miles to play in the Swamp has to move the line a lot of points. We're talking about 6 hours of time difference as well so if the game is at 4 in Florida that'll feel like 10 in the morning.

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I somewhat agree here. I'm not sure that it'll be close anyhow as Brennan is gone next year. But yeah, the hour difference would level the playing field a bit.

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I think it'd be impressive if Florida travelled west at all.

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This has been discussed previously (I belive?).

Its difficult for UF to play many OOC games. A few reasons-

-UF typically has 7 games a year at home. In order to fulfill those, it makes it difficult to do home/home with other teams when you have...

-FSU every year. Yes, FSU is not what they once were but they are still a competitive program. The home/home that we have with them every year takes out a potential away game we could have with another team.

-UGA at a neutral site (in jacksonville). Again, we cannot have another home game due to this annual game every year.

Now, thats not to say we can't play other teams, its just that we typically need to fulfill those homegames and not many teams are willing just to come to the swamp for one year (there are of course exceptions).

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A self imposed 7 home games + 1 neutral site game is not a valid excuse for a poor OOC schedule. If USC wanted to be a revenue whore they could too, but it's no different than consciously choosing to play a weak OOC schedule.

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-UF typically has 7 games a year at home. In order to fulfill those, it makes it difficult to do home/home with other teams when you have...

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Bull.

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-FSU every year. Yes, FSU is not what they once were but they are still a competitive program. The home/home that we have with them every year takes out a potential away game we could have with another team.

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God forbid they play someone else, much less someone else out of their own state.

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-UGA at a neutral site (in jacksonville). Again, we cannot have another home game due to this annual game every year.


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What does this have to do with travelling west?

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Michigan: Toledo, Miami(OH), At Notre Dame, TBD. Puke. Remind me why we needed to add 30 years to the Notre Dame deal? If we're going with the 1 "power" 3 cupcakes route, we could at least vary the power school for variety's sake.

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Maybe they can add Appalachian State? That could be the power school you need.

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TOL and MIA may both be able to hang around against Michigan. Obviously Michigan will be the favorites but it seems less likely they will be 40 point blowouts.

Even after they woke up this year and got good again Michigan had a very touch struggle with EMU.
Eastern only trailed 16-14 in the 2nd half. And there was the scare vs. Ball State last year as well.

LOL at Michigan fans complaining about playing those MAC 'cupcakes' after you look at some of the lower tier teams in their own freaking conference and when they ALREADY struggle against the likes of Appy, EMU and Ball St.

It's not like they're playing an 0-11 Northern Colorado team or something. TOL and MIA can actually play ball.

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USC plays an extra conference game and has the ND rivalry, so that seems to cancel out the Georgia game and the FSU game. They are playing @OSU and @UVA.

High profile teams that want to schedule premium OOC opponents can do so. There is no excuse, the reason Florida plays cupcakes is because it does not want to play real OOC games.

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Florida could have made the Hawaii contract home/home and not lost a precious home game, since the game in Hawaii would not count against the 12 game limit.

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Who can tell what team will be good or bad within several years? OOC schedules are typically written and contracted several years beforehand. Who would have known that UM and FSU would have been horrible at this point 5 years ago? Had we had this discussion 5-6 years ago UF would have a tremendously difficult schedule.

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-UF opens with Hawaii


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I wish they did a neutral field thing in LA or something. Not going to happen obviously, but it would make it a lot more interesting. UF is obviously the better team but traveling 5000 miles to play in the Swamp has to move the line a lot of points. We're talking about 6 hours of time difference as well so if the game is at 4 in Florida that'll feel like 10 in the morning.

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I somewhat agree here. I'm not sure that it'll be close anyhow as Brennan is gone next year. But yeah, the hour difference would level the playing field a bit.

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I think it'd be impressive if Florida travelled west at all.

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This has been discussed previously (I belive?).

Its difficult for UF to play many OOC games. A few reasons-

-UF typically has 7 games a year at home. In order to fulfill those, it makes it difficult to do home/home with other teams when you have...

-FSU every year. Yes, FSU is not what they once were but they are still a competitive program. The home/home that we have with them every year takes out a potential away game we could have with another team.

-UGA at a neutral site (in jacksonville). Again, we cannot have another home game due to this annual game every year.

Now, thats not to say we can't play other teams, its just that we typically need to fulfill those homegames and not many teams are willing just to come to the swamp for one year (there are of course exceptions).

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So your excuse for Florida not scheduling tough OOC, especially away is that they don't schedule tough OOC games, especially away.

It's not like the NCAA is mandating that they play 7 games at home.

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I won't disagree that UF's OOC schedule has been fairly easy the past few years. I won't disagree that USC has a difficult OOC (and for that I respect them). I don't think that those who implement scheduling for UF will want to add more difficult games than already present (insert SEC fanboy comment here)- but UF has played competitve schedules as well, no matter how weak their OOC schedule is (if you recall last year UF's schedule was among the most difficult in the nation).

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Who can tell what team will be good or bad within several years? OOC schedules are typically written and contracted several years beforehand. Who would have known that UM and FSU would have been horrible at this point 5 years ago? Had we had this discussion 5-6 years ago UF would have a tremendously difficult schedule.

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It's not that FSU/UM is a bad out of conference schedule, that's actually pretty good compared to almost everyone, it's that your reasoning for why you can't play a Pac-10 team is nonsensical. If you said that you already play two OOC rivalry games and along with the SEC schedule, you think that two OOC patsies that will travel to the swamp are in Florida's best interests, fine. But, to try and hide behind some sort of excuse that other good teams won't play a 1 off at Florida and you just have to only play 4 road games a year is pretty lame.

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This year they played WKU, Troy and Fla-ATL.
FLA knew damn well what types of teams they were scheduling when they signed up those programs.

Yeah, Troy can actually give big teams a tough battle. But the fact that FLA is playing OOC games vs. the Sun Belt pretty much tells you what you need to know.


In other news, anyone have any links that have a lot or all of the 2008 schedules?
I've been searching around on google and can't really find much.
When I try to find Miami OH's 2008 schedule I mostly am getting their 2007-2008 schedule.
WTF? Ummm, the football season is just 2007. The next one is 2008. No need to hyphenate it and include the following year just on the off-chance that they play in the GMAC Bowl on Jan 6 or something.

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Who can tell what team will be good or bad within several years? OOC schedules are typically written and contracted several years beforehand. Who would have known that UM and FSU would have been horrible at this point 5 years ago? Had we had this discussion 5-6 years ago UF would have a tremendously difficult schedule.

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Yeah, they really caught a tough break with Citadel's fall from national prominence.

If this was 1999 FSU and UM would be very hard games, but they don't even need to leave the state to play those. It's more than simply team quality, it's also distance. UF will always have a healthy amount of supporters in their away halves of those games, how many USC graduates do you think live in Charlottesville or Columbus?

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Not sure about FSU, but Miami should be on the up and up with the leaving of Coker. Next 2 years might be a little soft but they recruited almost every prospect from the #1 team in HS football atleast the last time I checked.

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Dude, 5 conference games IN A ROW. Well, with a bye. But FIVE CONFERENCE GAMES!!!

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And the hate continues. Do I hate on your school's schedule? Or record?

Look at the teams. I would venture to guess that three of those teams finish in the top 10 with two legit NC contenders.

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If you said that you already play two OOC rivalry games

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Florida dropped the Miami home/home around '87 when the SEC added a conference game. I think they only have played four or so scheduled games (twice more in bowls) since. Hardly a 'rivalry' any more.

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One thing that doesn't change from years in advance is location. If you don't schedule games in any time zone but Eastern then no matter what you aren't traveling west.

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Dude, LSU's schedule is a normal SEC schedule(with the added bonus that they don't have to play themselves). I'm not sure what third team you think makes the top 10, but either way, that's got to be one of the easiest schedules in the SEC because those are some seriously soft cupcakes. UGA has @ASU, Arkansas has @Texas, I think Auburn plays somebody good OOC, etc.

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Kansas

08/30/08 vs. Florida International Lawrence, Kan.
09/06/08 vs. Louisiana Tech Lawrence, Kan.
09/13/08 at South Florida Tampa, Fla.
09/20/08 vs. Sam Houston State Lawrence, Kan.
10/04/08 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
10/11/08 vs. Colorado Lawrence, Kan.
10/18/08 at Oklahoma Norman, Okla.
10/25/08 vs. Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan.
11/01/08 vs. Kansas State Lawrence, Kan.
11/08/08 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
11/15/08 vs. Texas Lawrence, Kan.
11/29/08 at Missouri Kansas City, Mo.

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Oregon's OOC starts with Boise State at home (will be on the blue turf in 2009), Utah State at home, and at Purdue.

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I'm pretty sure UCLA is going to play Tennessee and and Cal is going to play Michigan St these are two Pac 10 games off the top of my head

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Yes, Cal's non-con schedule is, IIRC, vs. Michigan St, vs. Colorado St., at Maryland. I'm curious to see what the QB situation is going to look like next year (and the WRs, depending on how much Jackson's stock has been affected this year).

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On the topic of schedule strength, I agree with those who are saying you have to recognize how quickly things can change.

Kansas wasn't playing a tough schedule this year no matter what, but CMU and Toledo have both had very successful seasons within the last couple of years.

Also btw, that KU-USF game next year may get moved to Friday, August 29th. Obviously that would involve moving the game on 8/30. Though part of me wonders if it's possible/legal to go ahead and play back-to-back days. Obviously it would never happen in a million years.

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On the topic of schedule strength, I agree with those who are saying you have to recognize how quickly things can change.

Kansas wasn't playing a tough schedule this year no matter what, but CMU and Toledo have both had very successful seasons within the last couple of years.

Also btw, that KU-USF game next year may get moved to Friday, August 29th. Obviously that would involve moving the game on 8/30. Though part of me wonders if it's possible/legal to go ahead and play back-to-back days. Obviously it would never happen in a million years.

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O RLY?

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Dude, LSU's schedule is a normal SEC schedule(with the added bonus that they don't have to play themselves). I'm not sure what third team you think makes the top 10, but either way, that's got to be one of the easiest schedules in the SEC because those are some seriously soft cupcakes. UGA has @ASU, Arkansas has @Texas, I think Auburn plays somebody good OOC, etc.

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Oh....I just noticed your avatar. You don't have a clue what it's like to play in a real conference, with real competition. I don't blame you now.

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Kansas

08/30/08 vs. Florida International Lawrence, Kan.
09/06/08 vs. Louisiana Tech Lawrence, Kan.
09/13/08 at South Florida Tampa, Fla.
09/20/08 vs. Sam Houston State Lawrence, Kan.
10/04/08 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
10/11/08 vs. Colorado Lawrence, Kan.
10/18/08 at Oklahoma Norman, Okla.
10/25/08 vs. Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan.
11/01/08 vs. Kansas State Lawrence, Kan.
11/08/08 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
11/15/08 vs. Texas Lawrence, Kan.
11/29/08 at Missouri Kansas City, Mo.

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KU picks up So. Fla, TX, and OU. Return to reality for the Jayhawks. They'll still be good though.

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Dude, LSU's schedule is a normal SEC schedule(with the added bonus that they don't have to play themselves). I'm not sure what third team you think makes the top 10, but either way, that's got to be one of the easiest schedules in the SEC because those are some seriously soft cupcakes. UGA has @ASU, Arkansas has @Texas, I think Auburn plays somebody good OOC, etc.

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Oh....I just noticed your avatar. You don't have a clue what it's like to play in a real conference, with real competition. I don't blame you now.

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Good work on recognizing the obscure colors of Ohio State. I tend to go for subtle hints.

I realize every halfwit south of the Mason-Dixon line thinks the SEC is somewhere around the NFC West in quality of play, but you posted one of the easiest schedules in that conference like it was noteworthy.

P.S. I was alive in 2005 when the Big Ten was not only harder than the SEC it was actually the hardest conference in all the land. I vaguely remember that year, too.

P.P.S. @ USC, week 2, 2008. That would be just about the hardest OOC game possible.