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ConstantineX 11-24-2007 02:54 AM

A Personal Challenge To The Forum
 
What's the least harmful policy on the other side that you would half-heartedly support if you get almost all of your political views or platform immediately enacted? Basically, what are some of the least bad ideas you disagree with but wouldn't mind so much?

On the leftish side,
Better unemployment benefits between cyclical jobs (switching from a "factory" job to a modern "service" job) and subsidized higher education like NSF funding.

At first I thought Universal Health Care, but then changed my mind quickly. I think UHC would do a pretty good job at providing healthcare to people who need present treatments RIGHT NOW, but would put a huge brake on medical innovation. People really have no concept of how much better healthcare is going to be in the next couple of decades; it's going to be a damn revolution, and the hidden cost of UHC now is the unseen dead in the future.

On the conservative side,

I think religious morality is given a bad rap by those who can see it's not objective. I think conservatives have a strong case for the importance of the family with the associated "values" - it explains a whole lot of the black-white test gap, for example.

What's yours?

ElliotR 11-24-2007 02:58 AM

Re: A Personal Challenge To The Forum
 
Overturn Roe v. Wade

AlexM 11-24-2007 03:10 AM

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Uhm... public fire department? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

yukoncpa 11-24-2007 03:11 AM

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What's the least harmful policy on the other side that you would half-heartedly support if you get almost all of your political views or platform immediately enacted? Basically, what are some of the least bad ideas you disagree with but wouldn't mind so much?


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Income taxation of corporations. Corporations have had privileged status since before modern democracies existed, which is unfair, but has worked, and poses a reason to tax them. I am a minimalist ( by pragmatism ) more then an anarchist. Although I disagree with all taxation, and I disagree with the privileged status of corporations, I don’t mind so much individual States collecting taxes from corporations so long as corporations retain their privileged status, and so long as states collect no further taxes unless such taxes are completely voluntary, such as a state lottery.

NickMPK 11-24-2007 03:19 AM

Re: A Personal Challenge To The Forum
 
Well, I am a essentially a socialist, and I supported the Iraq war.
Seeing how that has turned out has caused me to rethink any further bipartisan impulses.

But I also basically agree with the OP on the potential positive influence of moral values in public life.

AlexM 11-24-2007 03:27 AM

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I think religious morality is given a bad rap by those who can see it's not objective. I think conservatives have a strong case for the importance of the family with the associated "values" - it explains a whole lot of the black-white test gap, for example.

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Really you just need strong role models and good parenting. "Family values" are just an easy and convenient way to make that happen.

boracay 11-24-2007 06:36 AM

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Well, I am a essentially a socialist, and I supported the Iraq war.
Seeing how that has turned out has caused me to rethink any further bipartisan impulses.

But I also basically agree with the OP on the potential positive influence of moral values in public life.

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Speaking about moral values and supporting Iraq war?

adios 11-24-2007 07:58 AM

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That's a tough one. I guess I'd say changing SS by raising the cutoff income and/or means testing.

JuntMonkey 11-24-2007 09:57 AM

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So you "wouldn't mind" morality laws against gambling, alcohol, violence/sex in movies/videogames/television, or most stuff on the internet?

Sounds good.

ConstantineX 11-24-2007 10:00 AM

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So you "wouldn't mind" morality laws against gambling, alcohol, violence/sex in movies/videogames/television, or most stuff on the internet?

Sounds good.

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Stop polluting my thread with this garbage. I don't care about inane points you can find in 100 different posts on the forum. It's a philosophical challenge, not a freaking cakewalk.


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