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Andrysmor 11-28-2007 11:54 PM

Turn AA into a bluff?
 
Villian is tag, not tricky, capable of laying down a strong but not nut hand and does not make thin river bets.

History: We have tangled a few times but have not gotten deep into a big pot together. Other times he has seen me play tight and show down big hands when big money goes in. I have made several tricky bluffs but none have been called.

$2/$5 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $900
SB: $1299
BB: $550
UTG: $810
(Hero): $1150
CO: $725

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero
1 fold, Hero raises $20, 1 fold, Villian calls $20, 2 folds

Flop: ($47) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, BTN calls $35

Turn: ($117) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $90</font>, BTN raises $180, Hero calls $90

River: ($457) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Thoughts on a river push?

Cumulonimbus 11-29-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Turn AA into a bluff?
 
lol no its horrible

aislephive 11-29-2007 12:13 AM

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Meh def not horrible.

terp 11-29-2007 12:16 AM

Re: Turn AA into a bluff?
 
the kind of retard who minraises the turn either has a worse hand (and probably isn't folding) or has a better hand (and is definitely not folding)

Cumulonimbus 11-29-2007 12:29 AM

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lol no its horrible

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Meh def not horrible.

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yes yes it is. did you see stack sizes? Overbet bluffing this river when two big draws just got there. Hah.

EgoSlasher 11-29-2007 12:38 AM

Re: Turn AA into a bluff?
 
That's about the worst possible river card. C/F.

aislephive 11-29-2007 12:44 AM

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lol no its horrible

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Meh def not horrible.

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yes yes it is. did you see stack sizes? Overbet bluffing this river when two big draws just got there. Hah.

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Villain minraised the turn, really doubt he ever has clubs here and probably folds everything but a flush and maybe TJ to a shove. I think c/f &gt; shove though, but given description this is not a bad spot to bluff.

irockhoess 11-29-2007 12:53 AM

Re: Turn AA into a bluff?
 
i only bluff this when im drunk... and i lose A LOT when im drunk.

markuisis 11-29-2007 01:16 AM

Re: Turn AA into a bluff?
 
why r u calling the turn if u now think ur bluffing? do u think that jack gave him two pair or a straight? or did u think that u were slightly ahead of his turn range which would justify a call but that this river card was too good of an opportunity to bluff the stronger parts of his range? Either way, I dont think bluffing here is ever too bad against described villain if only for the fact that he almost never has clubs and ur line looks an awful lot like clubs. This is only good if ur described villain can actually lay hands down like u said, if not, ur trying to bluff him off two pair at the least which is def spewey depending on the villain.

markuisis 11-29-2007 01:19 AM

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That's about the worst possible river card. C/F.

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do u really think this guy's drawing here?


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