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Borned_Luckbox1 11-24-2007 09:53 AM

wtf @ my friend?
 
3-handed.

stacks: $1200

no special reads, but he's ~ 27/22/3

Preflop he opens to $30

I call in sb with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, he bets $50 and hero check/raise to $155.


My friend told me this is a bad c/r, I thought it was extremely standard???? wtf?

DanJ. 11-24-2007 10:23 AM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
why did he say it was bad?

tozzy 11-24-2007 11:16 AM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
i dont really like PF
as for the flop, i think what your friend is trying to say is that your range for doing this is massively weighted towards draws and thus is not really balanced. you cant rep lots of queens (like QTs/QJs) and you might well coldcall with 88, i think c/c is a valid option here.

sauce123 11-24-2007 11:21 AM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
its a lot better with AJ

tozzy 11-24-2007 12:04 PM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
yeah, its way better as a bluff, since when you get 3bet, pretty much all your options suck. (e.g. when getting it in, you wont be drawing to more than ~7 outs very often)

ogdundar 11-24-2007 12:09 PM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
c/c is better than c/r because you have showdown value already and you may get bluffed off your equity here. What if he is pushing, are you calling?

I usually 3-bet preflop.

Psy_Mike 11-24-2007 01:02 PM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
so our c/r range is... pure bluffs only?

*FamilyGuyFan* 11-24-2007 01:11 PM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
Are we checkraising KJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or JT[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

tozzy 11-24-2007 01:39 PM

Re: wtf @ my friend?
 
[ QUOTE ]
so our c/r range is... pure bluffs only?

[/ QUOTE ]
you should seek to balance your ranges at any time. meaning a ch/r here should be a draw, a bluff and something like 88 or QJ equaly often.


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