NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

Raising with 67 suited and hitting bottom pair and FD after Flop. I play against shortstack with $6.20 left.
I guess I should have played CC after flop and hope to hit one of my many outs at turn..
Or do I have enough outs to push the flop here?? Where do I make the mistake in this hand??

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($29.45)
CO ($25.25)
Button ($29.30)
SB ($7.45)
BB ($32.30)
UTG ($14.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($4.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6.2 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $3.20.

Turn: ($0) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($0) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $16.65

He got AQ and won the pot.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

The preflop raise is a tad questionable, but depending on table conditions I'm fine with it. Postflop is incredibly standard.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

Yes, you can take a flush draw + pair to war here, you're a coinflip against a pair better than yours (unless it's a six with a better kicker), and you get odds of 1:4.5 here, so this is an insta-call.

Preflop I only play this way if UTG is a weak player and I try to isolate him. Most times, I limp behind here and fold to a raise from CO and Button.... leak?

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

your raising this from too early position IMO. If your raising this kind of hand you cant be scared of playing marginal pots like this. Your without a doubt behind. BUt you can get your money in with 14 outs just about even money.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

The raise PF is pretty loose. At a minimum you need to be in the cutoff to make this raise. Although the villain played this hand pretty bad post flop you have to get it in here. After the flop as played seems fine.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

Raise is ok PF but stick to opening these type of hands on CO/Button. Flop is fine.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

No mistake. You aren't gonna win every hand.


The pre-flop raise is likely bad if you aren't a pretty good post-flop player, however.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

you got it in flipping, that s not a mistake imo.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

Nice aggressive play with a hand that is worthy of a flop. At least you aren't getting fancy with junk.

As played, is totally fine, maybe bet a little less on the flop. That way, if BTN shows strength, you won't get sandwiched for stacks. Otherwise, its a no-brainer calling the shorty, just shrug it off and move on you didn't hit your card.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

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As played, is totally fine, maybe bet a little less on the flop. That way, if BTN shows strength, you won't get sandwiched for stacks.

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Wrong....if anything bet a little more. If button shows strength by raising hero's flop bet then hero should be shoving all-in.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

Really? Can you explain to me why going to the felt for 100+bb with bottom pair and not even the nut flush draw is a good play?

I just think that hands that will play with us here would be a favourite and that includes sets or top two. Of course I am talking about the button here not the shorty.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

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Really? Can you explain to me why going to the felt for 100+bb with bottom pair and not even the nut flush draw is a good play?

I just think that hands that will play with us here would be a favourite and that includes sets or top two. Of course I am talking about the button here not the shorty.

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Flush draw and a pair is a big hand...lots of outs.....when you combine the equity it has against villian's calling range and add in how often he will fold to our shove it's easily +ev especially with the overlay from the money in the pot.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

45,540 games 0.005 secs 9,108,000 games/sec

Board: 6c Ad Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.224% 47.22% 00.01% 21503 3.00 { 7d6d }
Hand 1: 52.776% 52.77% 00.01% 24031 3.00 { 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, AcQc, AhQh, AsQs, AcJc, AhJh, AsJs, AcTc, AhTh, AsTs, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AhKc, AhKd, AhKs, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AhQc, AhQd, AhQs, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AhJc, AhJd, AhJs, AsJc, AsJd, AsJh, AcTh, AcTs, AhTc, AhTs, AsTc, AsTh





Edit: It's great for the image too. And you can play this type of hand exactly the same way you play some of your big hands like sets or overpairs.

Re: NL 25 - 67d, where did i make the mistake?
 

I personally don't raise with sc's in MP but that's a style issue, no problem with it. On this flop bet/3betallin 100% of the time. Nice hand.