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Pokabandito 10-23-2007 04:21 PM

QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $54.30
BB: $46
UTG: $38.45
Hero (MP): $82.65
CO: $48.45
BTN: $67.70

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, CO calls $4

Flop: ($19) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10, <font color="red">CO raises to $42.45 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $48.30 and is All-In</font>,

Hero folds.

Thoughts? I've been really struggling with playing QQ pf since I've been getting it all in a lot vs KK/AA.

1) Should I have repopped pf? Is a flatcall acceptable?
2) Do you raise this flop?
3) Is a fold standard on flop?

Reads: SB was playing fairly tight pf in the 45 mins I've been playing him. He hasn't seemed to get out of line after the flop either. Other villain just sat down and we have no reads.

bung 10-23-2007 05:37 PM

Re: QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
reads, stats? I think you played it fine.

FWIW I usually fold QQ to a 4-bt after I've 3-bt, and call a 3-bt once I've raised.

bsball8806 10-23-2007 06:01 PM

Re: QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
pop it to 2.50 preflop
1.) a flatcall in this case is fine
2.) yes, this is just about a perfect flop for your hand
3.) as played, I fold this. I'd be somewhere between 90 and 100% sure SB has AA or KK

poker12 10-23-2007 06:07 PM

Re: QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
2.5 pre...when he rr you - rr him to 20... shov-o el flop-o

svidrigailov 10-23-2007 06:18 PM

Re: QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
[ QUOTE ]
2.5 pre...when he rr you - rr him to 20... shov-o el flop-o

[/ QUOTE ]

What are you putting a villain who hasn't been getting out of line on? AK has like 35%+ equity in this spot and that's prob the bottom of his range, which includes AA, KK maybe JJ. This can't be better than a flip. With the third guy in there who has any pair (sets and small overpairs, 44, etc.) I can't see how this would be +EV. If preflop is 4-bet we're obv committed, but whether or not to 4-bet/commit QQ pre depends on villains tendencies.

Calling pre is fine and this is an awkward spot. I'd fold FWIW but I'd feel kinda lost.

AusDerBunker 10-23-2007 06:21 PM

Re: QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
Yeah, there are two types of hands that reraise you .. the AK type and the AA type, but trouble is if you don't reraise pf, you are letting AK off the hook and AA will charge you.


So unless it is a nit, get it in there pf

Pokabandito 10-23-2007 06:33 PM

Re: QQ .25/.50 Poorly played pf?
 
Considering there was a call behind on the original raise to $2, should there be more merit to a reraise (even if it commits you pf) so that you isolate?


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