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obiedman 11-28-2007 03:25 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
check behind the turn, call a lotta rivers

recallme 11-28-2007 07:30 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
What do you expect him to have? His check really confuses me.
I put him on lots of weaker aces. C7r and c turn with a set would be an amzing tricky line

irockhoess 11-28-2007 07:53 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
taking the lead in this hand at any point after he check raises is bad. call flop, once he checks, check behind. I think you are against A9 or A3 a ton here and he is scared of AQ. no other hands really make sense that i can think of to take this line other than air, either way betting is bad.

1o BoY 11-28-2007 09:18 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
Does SB not reraise here with just abwt anything a small percent of the time...10J/AX to find out where he is as this is a sick dry Ahigh board, or am i way of as SB is OOP...??

kevdawg21 11-28-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
I'd check and call river.

CopTHIS 11-28-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop (I mean, if they never do it with a worse ace and never with air then AK isn't too pretty). Also, the BB is still to act and if he's as much as a donk as most with that sized stack then that would make a move with air a little less likely. It looks like this villian will do this with a wider range of hands though so I guess you can call and take it from there. Personally, I'd pretty much always check the turn if checked to, no matter what comes up.

TheMetetron 11-28-2007 09:53 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
You are basically never folding this flop unless you hate the monies. When he checks to you on the Q turn, a check behind is good. Call almost all rivers and value bet them yourself for around half pot if he checks.

TheMetetron 11-28-2007 09:54 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
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Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop

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While I agree, I don't think player shows up much at $5/10, especially on Stars.

CopTHIS 11-28-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
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Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop

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While I agree, I don't think player shows up much at $5/10, especially on Stars.

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I've seen loads of players at 5/10 where I am certain that calling the flop is -EV, but I've never played Stars and will stay away based on this!

Vinny80 11-28-2007 10:26 AM

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 
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Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop

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While I agree, I don't think player shows up much at $5/10, especially on Stars.

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I've seen loads of players at 5/10 where I am certain that calling the flop is -EV, but I've never played Stars and will stay away based on this!

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But still, this is a steal raise vs 2 blinds caller. Unless villain is a super-nit, this can't be an easy fold on the flop. Many players will only cold call with AQ=AJ even ATs from the blinds.


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