JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

<font color="blue">the table had just broke down to 3 handed . a huge donk had jsut busted out and the other 2 regs had left.
villain is a little nitty/passive PF at 18/12, but hes played decent poker from what i can tell. he has picked up quite a few pots without showdown and has shown winners when any serious money went in so far. he hadnt done anythig stupid yet. thsi was second time i recall him ch/r a flop after the PFR has c-bet

villain views me as a regular 20/16 Tag </font>



Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
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Hero (BTN): $138.45
SB: $186.70
BB: $85.75

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($9) 9http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $17
<font color="blue"> i think i hate my flop line
does anyone check this flop?
do i shove after his ch/r?
fold?
or is calling/reevaluating turn ok?
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Turn: ($57) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $41</font> HERO???
<font color="blue"> ughh, i shouldve known this was coming when i called the flop. now what? </font>

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

I think flop is fine.

Now fold turn given your read. What do you beat? TT? Muck 'em.

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

turn is a fold, flop is OK i think, but not sure given 3 handed play and this really changes the way some people play, tough spot

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

What do we do when the diamond hits, call down?

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

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turn is a fold, flop is OK i think, but not sure given 3 handed play and this really changes the way some people play, tough spot

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i actually dont think being 3 handed had any effect on his range here, as the game had literally just broken up like 2 hands before.




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What do we do when the diamond hits, call down?


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i have no idea, i was hoping for some feeback on that situation. which is why im questioning my flop play now. im just totally lost everyewhere wit this hand

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

If he has the flush here, does he play so aggressively? I think maybe A9 or something involving the Ad? I min raise and consider calling if he pushes.

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

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If he has the flush here, does he play so aggressively? I think maybe A9 or something involving the Ad? I min raise and consider calling if he pushes.

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I'm much more worried about a set, two-pair, straight.

OP, I really don't see any other way to play it. You hate too many cards on the turn to just check behind on the flop. Then I think you have to call in position, and see what he does on the turn. When he bets you sigh and fold.

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

If we hit a diamond on the turn, I'd call a turn bet. I'd fold to a river shove. If he checks turn, VB. If he bets turn and checks river, value shove (on nonpaired board).

Re: JJ - Overpair + flushdraw on a montone flop vs decent player
 

i dont like the flop call at all; there are basically no cards that can come, except a J, that we really wanna call a decent turn bet with. and i dont think we can expect villian to check the turn after we just call.
i dont might jamming flop

edit: typo