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thac 11-16-2007 10:09 PM

I make every hand hard on myself
 
UTG is a pretty tight opener in EP and folds to most 3-bets (90% overall, forget how many in EP), so I figured I could kinda disguise my hand and play position. BB is shpanko, and I know he likes to make loose-ish calls from the blinds.

I've never seen shpanko take this line like ever.. so what's our play? Call, raise (to what amount), fold (lol?)? I couldn't decide what to do.. which I guess is why I should've considered 3-betting preflop.


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $353.80
UTG: $197
MP: $194.95
CO: $56.80
Hero (BTN): $236.20
SB: $330.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, BB calls $16, UTG folds

Turn: ($54) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $41</font>

Kinbor 11-16-2007 10:12 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
i think this is always a call. if you raise, you lose the hands that you beat and have plenty of outs in position with more betting to be done on the river.

nazahl 11-16-2007 10:14 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
raising seems counterproductive

TheGreenMile 11-16-2007 11:06 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
i like just calling and reevaluating river.

holdme 11-16-2007 11:07 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
callll

thac 11-16-2007 11:26 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
Okay, we're all in agreement there.. what's our bet size here? (We have $170ish left)

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $353.80
UTG: $197
MP: $194.95
CO: $56.80
Hero (BTN): $236.20
SB: $330.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, BB calls $16, UTG folds

Turn: ($54) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $41</font>, Hero calls $41

River: ($136) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero..

KLJ 11-16-2007 11:34 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
minimum of 100, maximum of all of it IMO

Xanta 11-16-2007 11:35 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
I think 85 gets looked up by any ace, which is nice since Ax cc is a decent chunk of his range. Don't see what else you're really gonna get value from. Call a shove ldo.

Edit: LOL, we have the Ac. 100 sounds good.

markuisis 11-16-2007 11:35 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
120, make it look like a busted draw, overbet if its believable as a bluff, ur line looks so much like a draw and it seems very unlikely u have a good hand given turn action or that the k improved ur hand given pf.

McRoNiX 11-16-2007 11:36 PM

Re: I make every hand hard on myself
 
Take him to value town, 90-100 sound good?


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