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aislephive 11-21-2007 08:25 PM

TPTK do I call down here?
 
Villain is a tag I've played a decent amount with, pretty aggressive but nothing crazy. Preflop I typically 3bet but sometimes just call like I did here. Thoughts on my postflop line? Couldn't see any other lines to take, but the board is pretty scary and calling down doesn't seem great either given how often the board is going to go to hell. I lucked out though and the board didn't change on the turn/river. So am I forced to call river or what?

FWIW we had a pretty interesting hand several months ago where he made a big call with TPTK on a four flush board against me in a 3bet pot and was right. The rest of our history is standard 3betting and stuff, but we haven't been out of line against one another.

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $479.50
BTN: $929
SB: $518.20
Hero (BB): $487
UTG: $415.40

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $76</font>, Hero calls $76

River: ($242) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $180</font>

SuperRu 11-21-2007 08:35 PM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
yeah call

SEABEAST 11-21-2007 08:41 PM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
i hate just calling preflop but i like postflop and think you have to call river

BobbyLight 11-21-2007 09:07 PM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
I think we are getting value-towned. If he is at least a thinking player doesn't he know that that is an innocuous turn and river and that since you called the flop and the turn the river likely changed nothing and that you are calling again?

Is this a decent spot for a turn bet of $60?

RockyElsom 11-21-2007 10:23 PM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
I fold the turn. This is a bad spot for him to be double barreling with a draw, and he probably on this board won't push it too far with anything you beat, like KQ or a combo draw.

RUDIKULOUS 11-21-2007 10:42 PM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
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I fold the turn. This is a bad spot for him to be double barreling with a draw, and he probably on this board won't push it too far with anything you beat, like KQ or a combo draw.

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Are you serious? So many draws missed, you have about the top of your range here, you pretty much have to call I think.

WelshChip 11-21-2007 10:44 PM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
what the fk?

blankoblanco 11-22-2007 12:24 AM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
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I think we are getting value-towned. If he is at least a thinking player doesn't he know that that is an innocuous turn and river and that since you called the flop and the turn the river likely changed nothing and that you are calling again?

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wtf are you talking about? you do realize that the flop was drawy as hell, the turn made it even wetter, and every single draw missed on the river

cawl

RockyElsom 11-22-2007 12:30 AM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
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Are you serious? So many draws missed, you have about the top of your range here, you pretty much have to call I think.

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The turn or the river?

RockyElsom 11-22-2007 12:32 AM

Re: TPTK do I call down here?
 
If we get to the river like this, we do have to call, because our read is he'll 2 barrel here with a draw, so presumably he'll 3 barrel too.


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