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JaredL 12-02-2007 02:38 AM

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where is assani?

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Shouldn't he still be arguing for Hawaii's consideration in title game anyway? Three 1 loss teams, they're gonna be one of em most likely.

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I've been here the whole time, and let me repeat now for the third time that my argument wasn't based upon me thinking that Hawaii is a top 2 team. I don't have any opinion on that either way. My argument was based around the fact that we don't know how good Hawaii is because they havn't played anyone, so lets make them face the toughest possible game(the title game) so we can find out.

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But, we do know how good they are. Or rather, how good they aren't. It's not just that they haven't played anyone of any consequence, it's that despite that they haven't dominated. If they had rolled through their schedule by 3TDs a game, people might think differently. They didn't.

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I'm somewhat biased here, but I think you have to factor in that their away games are tougher than for any other team. All their away games are like a West Coast team flying to the East coast to play. Obviously it cuts the other way and their home games are that much tougher.

With the exception of Fresno State and now Washington they have blown out every team they've played at home.

ClarkNasty 12-02-2007 02:41 AM

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So your argument is that "our road games are tougher than other teams, even if they are against horrid teams, and hey, we are have blown out 4 of the 7 teams we've played at home! (including Charleston Southern and Northern Colorado)"

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 02:42 AM

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argh...if Washington just would've ran the whole half

rigged81 12-02-2007 02:48 AM

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I just dont see how this doesnt lead to a playoff. There is no argument for # 2


As TSOU fan who grew up in greg norman era I want USC battle for the decade.

JaredL 12-02-2007 02:51 AM

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So your argument is that "our road games are tougher than other teams, even if they are against horrid teams, and hey, we are have blown out 4 of the 7 teams we've played at home! (including Charleston Southern and Northern Colorado)"

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Firstly, I should point out what I'm arguing. I think the case for UH in the BCS title game is thin. I think that if they win tonight then they should be at least considered as a candidate along with USC, LSU, Kansas, OU, Georgia, and VT. I think they are deserving of a BCS game. I don't really think they are one of the two best teams in the country, (edit) nor do they deserve to be in the National Title game under the current system.

Mainly, I think that it's not really clear how good they are. Tonight is a bad sign so far, though.

My argument is that the games that should have been blowouts and weren't are at LA Tech, at SJSU, at Nevada and I guess Fresno State at home. That there are four of them isn't good obviously, but individually I could see some top teams having trouble in some of these games traveling 3-5 time zones.

Mainly the travel time makes it even less clear where UH should be properly ranked. If a team in California played their same schedule and got the same results then it would be more problematic.

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 02:53 AM

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HUGE stop for Washington to begin this half

If they follow up with a score, they've stolen all momentum back

Francis_MH 12-02-2007 02:53 AM

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I just dont see how this doesnt lead to a playoff. There is no argument for # 2


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I was kinda pissed when Herbstreit and Musberger were talking about a playoff, and basically they said "it ain't gonna happen, all these people writing about a need for it are wasting their time." Whereas they could've said, as the #1 college football broadcasting team, something like "there absolutely needs to be a playoff system, this season proves it." At least they could really start applying the pressure, but whatever.

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 02:56 AM

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NO...there doesn't need to be a playoff... we've had a 13 week playoff already

JaredL 12-02-2007 02:56 AM

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NO...there doesn't need to be a playoff... we've had a 13 week playoff already

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It's a triple-elimination tournament, apparently.

Riverman 12-02-2007 02:57 AM

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College FB is so amazing BC there is no playoff...

Think College Basketball...does anyone care about any games being played right now?


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