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Parvex 10-08-2007 08:26 AM

NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.65)
Hero ($54.55)
UTG ($25.50)
MP ($81.10)
CO ($61.75)
Button ($51.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, UTG calls $1.25, SB folds.

Turn: ($4) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, Hero calls ???

Villain is 35/0/3.75 over 34 hands. No other reads. Baluga? Call for boat draw?

kolotoure 10-08-2007 08:40 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
Call and prob call river

krayz1e1 10-08-2007 08:45 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
as played i call the turn and call a small bet on the river.

prodonkey 10-08-2007 08:53 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
he didn't open limp.. he is bb.

Ender Wiggin 10-08-2007 09:24 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.65)
Hero ($54.55)
UTG ($25.50)
MP ($81.10)
CO ($61.75)
Button ($51.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, UTG calls $1.25, SB folds.

Turn: ($4) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, Hero calls ???

Villain is 35/0/3.75 over 34 hands. No other reads. Baluga? Call for boat draw?

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meh

let's try to give villain a range.

PREFLOP his range is huge (look at his VPIP) and I'm not gonna try to list it, but it's wide like the mighty missisipi probably. I'm not including stuff like 52 or K4 though.

FLOP he called the so he had to have some piece of the board. 9x, 56, A2, diamonds, 55-88, slowplayed 44/33/43. Due to his passive nature he could have slowplayed TT-AA preflop and kept passive on the flop. This might be in his range too.

TURN An overcard hits.

<font color="red">If he has 9x he hates this card. Clearly this is no longer in his range now.

The draws obviously don't like it either since they missed. Due to his passive nature he would prolly call again to see the river if he had 56 or diamonds. So this doesn't suit his minraise either.

<font color="blue">The only 9x holding that fits the minraise (turn minraises usually mean uber strenght) is K9. He reasonably calls the flop with TPGK, and with his improvement on the turn, he is min-raising for value. Probably not a good line, but it makes sense from a player like this.

33/44/43 didn't improve, but he still loves his hand of course. This is still in his range.

<font color="red">Slowplayed TT-QQ doesn't like the king, and would probably be in a calldown mode by now. Doesn't fit the min-raise.</font>

<font color="blue">Slowplayed KK/AA he still likes his hand, and this fits the min-raise.</font>

To summarise this hand reading, his range appears to be 44, 33, 34, K9 and an outweighted KK/AA. I haven't stoved this but we are only ahead to one hand. This looks like a fold to me.

BishopsFinger 10-08-2007 09:26 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
call and call 2/3 psb on any non diamond river as i think he shows up with a pair (most likely the k) and a draw here a lot.

redlotus 10-08-2007 09:59 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
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FLOP he called the so he had to have some piece of the board.

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I would have to disagree with this. Most micro-donks love to call this board with two overs. You have to include T-J+ in your estimate of his range.

In my opinion, this is an easy call.

Ender Wiggin 10-08-2007 10:34 AM

Re: NL50 43s flops two pair, gets minraised on turn
 
Meh.. this is a limped 3-way pot, villain isn't peeling flop with overs. Maybe if it was a raised HU pot, but not here.


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