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KitCloudkicker 11-18-2007 03:56 PM

quickie flop checkup
 
incredibly awesome loose passive 20/40 at borg.

4 limps, I complete SB with A4o (no spade), BB checks.

Flop is Q53 monotone spades. I check, spazz BB (range here is any pair, draw) leads, 2 callers (both LP's). Do I call here closing the action?

Borno 11-18-2007 04:07 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
you're getting 9:1 and you have maximum clean outs and you are hugely vulnerable to reverse implied odds no matter how LP or bad your opponents are. Fold.

pohuist 11-18-2007 04:10 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
You don't have enough equity to draw even if threre were 2 spades on the board. And you almost never draw to a straight (especially isnside non-nut straight) when the flop is all one suit. It had to be capped 6 way preflop for this to be correct given the flop action.

brick 11-19-2007 03:47 AM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
3 clean outs + 2 good aces which might be worth 1 (or less) outs total - lots of redraws - implied odds which aren't terrible but not great = fold

LukeSLTS 11-19-2007 01:48 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
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3 clean outs + 2 good aces which might be worth 1 (or less) outs total - lots of redraws - implied odds which aren't terrible but not great = fold

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What he said

SNOWBALL 11-19-2007 02:25 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
it's pretty easy for you to already be up against a flush here

Bicycles_Biatch 11-19-2007 05:53 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
I don't have a degree in english... but if monotone still means all the cards on the board were spades... FOLD.

Dagger78 11-19-2007 06:59 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
Calling here pretty awful IMO.

9-1 closing the action and you're PRAYING you have like 5 outs. You likely have between 0-3, and will still sometimes lose even if you get there on the turn.

WMB 11-19-2007 07:11 PM

Re: quickie flop checkup
 
no


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