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cs3 02-19-2007 06:37 AM

QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
villain has is relativey unknown but has played just about every hand since hes sat down - maybe 5-6 orbits so far. seems like a donkish station. typical "ZOMG i have top pair.. nutz yo" kind of guy.

i had been getting reall aggro the last few mintues but im sure this guy hadnt noticed/wouldnt mean anything to him



Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $321.35
UTG+1: $214.20
Hero: $116.80
Button: $102.10
SB: $166.90
BB: $98.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, Button calls.

<font color="blue"> nice flop, and my standard c-bet </font>

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($25.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $8</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue"> this was kind meh.
i usually fire another 3/4 pot bet on the turn, but vs this guy i didnt think he would fold anythign that he cled with on the flop.
and when i do check in this spot its almost always to ch/r, usually allin.
but he bet tiny, giving me redonkulous odds to call, and i thought he still might call a big raise. thoughts?
and what kind of range do you put villain on now?
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River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($41.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $33</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $82.1 <font color="black">Hero???

</font>
<font color="blue"> woohoo Q, i hit a money card!


HIIIGH FIVE!




uhoh







NNNOOOOOOTTT!!!!

easy call? easy fold? not easy?</font>

comments appreciated on all streets

anacrime 02-19-2007 06:44 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
I fold. We don't beat anything. He never has a lower Q. Never has AJ. Almost never has AK. When calling stations are raising they usually have &gt; one pair and in this case this means he also has QT beat.

Black Wings 02-19-2007 06:50 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
Your getting 3/1 on your money here which is probably enough vs the guy given your read.

cs3 02-19-2007 06:56 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
anacrime-

why doesnt he ever have AK or AJ?
what do make you make of his turn bet?
and what do you think of my turn/river line?

cs3 02-20-2007 04:52 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
any more thoughts on this hand?
i thouhgt it was fairly intersting

carnivalhobo 02-20-2007 04:55 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
if i check this turn im bombing it after he bets this weak

call the river

flyty86 02-20-2007 05:12 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
given your read, he is the type to play even A5 and AJ this way. call that chit

ronitonline 02-20-2007 06:28 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
Easy call given how many hands hes played I think. Also, he bet on the flop looks like his hand involves an A not a Q so not unless he has AQ or AA I think youre fine.

The Velour Fog 02-20-2007 06:58 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
easy call vs this particular villain

cs3 02-20-2007 07:15 AM

Re: QTs flops royal draw, improves on turn. line check time!
 
i was actually pretty happy that he pushed and i instacalled having put him on an AK/AJ.

but after the hand i thouhgt about it some and i think donks show up with 55/JJ/AA there fairly often, so maybe my call shouldnt have been so automatic.




anyway, he showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and MHIG.
no idea if he was value betting or bluffing. no idea if he even knows the difference


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