QTss Flush
 

PayOffWizard is 22/19 26wtsd 53wwsf 5.65/3.03/2.37 AF over 5k hands. No history or metagame between us. Note we are 174bb deep. What is the best river line given my line so far - is the line I took optimal? I thought a fake blocking bet was the best choice out of check raising and betting a larger amount or am i wrong? Seems like a tough spot to get the most value here. If he raises, do I 3bet? 3bet and fold to a 4th bet? If I c/r do I fold to a shove?


FullTiltPoker Game #3878347752: Table La Madre (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:20:07 ET - 2007/10/16
Seat 1: southside1 ($1,373)
Seat 2: PayOffWizard80 ($2,124)
Seat 3: Parra Poker ($1,027)
Seat 4: WhoIsThisGuy ($1,000)
Seat 5: Smart LAG ($1,746)
Seat 6: JungleKing ($935)
Smart LAG posts the small blind of $5
JungleKing posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Smart LAG [Ts Qs]
southside1 folds
PayOffWizard80 raises to $35
Parra Poker has 15 seconds left to act
Parra Poker folds
WhoIsThisGuy calls $35
Smart LAG calls $30
JungleKing has 15 seconds left to act
JungleKing folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 8s Ah]
Smart LAG checks
PayOffWizard80 bets $80
WhoIsThisGuy folds
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG calls $80
*** TURN *** [2s 8s Ah] [8h]
Smart LAG checks
PayOffWizard80 checks
*** RIVER *** [2s 8s Ah 8h] [6s]
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG bets $90

Re: QTss Flush
 

uhhh, wtf. the line you took is fine, i usually bet the turn, but as played, you just bet 3/4 of the pot on the river. i know 90 is no 3.4 of the pot, why would you bet 90 wtf.

Re: QTss Flush
 

I like a bigger lead on the river and call a raise

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Given that i dont think youd ever block here with Ax i dont like it, just make a real bet.

But i kind of think blocking bets suck in general against regs.

Re: QTss Flush
 

hm, i do make real blocking bets. possibly not on this board though.

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given that he checked behind on the turn, im surprised most people want to just make a big bet when it is unlikely he has much.

Re: QTss Flush
 

Im not raising you very often with marginal hands w/ your line on this board

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given that he checked behind on the turn, im surprised most people want to just make a big bet when it is unlikely he has much.

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there's just nothing you can do about that fact. just bet and hope he PCed an ace on the turn or gets call happy with two tens thinking you floated two sevens and are turning them into a bluff.

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given that he checked behind on the turn, im surprised most people want to just make a big bet when it is unlikely he has much.

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there's just nothing you can do about that fact. just bet and hope he PCed an ace on the turn or gets call happy with two tens thinking you floated two sevens and are turning them into a bluff.

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Re: QTss Flush
 

I don't mind the fake blocker here but I'd make it a touch bigger. I think if he has air he's more likely to bluff raise a $130ish bet than a $90ish bet.