$33 deep stack value bet
 

what is the best bet to make on river? stack sizes are so akward that any near pot-size bet i make is weird. push? bet weak? if he had a high club with a pair he might call a small bet but not all-in. but if he has set or something he might.

PokerStars Game #7349215565: Tournament #37162863, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit -
Level I (10/20) - 2006/12/08 - 02:40:28 (ET)
Table '37162863 24' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: pman82 (4910 in chips)
Seat 2: Gangsta_Love (5660 in chips)
Seat 3: shanman63 (4615 in chips)
Seat 4: KOMPRESOR (7410 in chips)
Seat 5: Commerce24-7 (5770 in chips)
Seat 6: reraze (4900 in chips)
Seat 7: battletoad2 (4870 in chips)
Seat 8: ruthlessAce (9945 in chips)
Seat 9: Caligula 34 (1880 in chips)
ruthlessAce: posts small blind 10
Caligula 34: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to battletoad2 [Qc Jc]
pman82: folds
Gangsta_Love: folds
shanman63: calls 20
KOMPRESOR: calls 20
Commerce24-7: folds
reraze: folds
battletoad2: raises 80 to 100
ruthlessAce: calls 90
Caligula 34: folds
shanman63: calls 80
KOMPRESOR: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [2h Tc 5c]
ruthlessAce: checks
shanman63: checks
KOMPRESOR: checks
battletoad2: checks
*** TURN *** [2h Tc 5c] [7c]
ruthlessAce: bets 400
shanman63: folds
KOMPRESOR: folds
battletoad2: raises 900 to 1300
ruthlessAce: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [2h Tc 5c 7c] [Kh]
ruthlessAce: checks

Re: $33 deep stack value bet
 

Bet flop. You check behind too many flops. Position, Strong draw including overs probably. Raise more on turn, v-bet river.

Why did you check flop when most cards that help you on turn will shut down action?

Re: $33 deep stack value bet
 

Rough calc. the pot is about 3k and you got 3.4k behind by the river and villain cover right?

Unless villain is loose, he either got a set here, lower flush or a busted draw, probably the A-high flush draw. i don't see him calling your turn raise with anything else, maybe he got a hand like 57s here sometiems.

If you've seen villain make some loose calls, I'd just push. If he got a set, flush or even two-pair he'll probably look you up. Most players aren't capable of folding a set or a lower flush here, especially if they aren't at risk of going broke, which villain isn't here. He isn't calling any bet with a busted draw anyways so you don't have to worry about that. You might lose some value if he called the turn w the K-high flush draw, and paired the river, but I think that's unlikely.

Andy

Re: $33 deep stack value bet
 

First off, I'd bet the flop.
By the river, I'd put him on either a set (7's?) or the Ac with maybe a pair, not many two pair hands are likely.
Most one pair hands are not going to pay you off anything. A missed flush draw is not going to pay you off anything. However people can't fold sets so I just push--its not a real awkward bet (slightly more than pot) and people automatically like to think those type of bets are bluffs.

Edit: Looks like the words were already taken out of my mouth.

Re: $33 deep stack value bet
 

HA! ruthlessace with a stack'll definitely call 1950 here with a ten.

Re: $33 deep stack value bet
 

I'll just go ahead and repeat what others have said for emphasis. Next time - bet the flop (definitely a must), raise a lil more on the turn, and push river (any smaller bet is no more likely to be called than a shove IMO).

Re: $33 deep stack value bet
 

Why the raise pre flop? It's early on in the tournament and players are going to call. You are just building a big pot with a poor hand.
If you must raise make it around the 140 mark.