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Okay, I get it, Americans are evil, blah, blah, even though we stopped two Holocausts

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So that makes us +1?

Of course, it's not like we set out to stop any holocausts, just happened accidentally on the way, but the one we caused was definitely intentional, so... yeah, definitely not even +1.

Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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In 1944, 13% of Americans wanted to "kill all Japanese" and in December 1945 22% wished the United States had had the opportunity to use "many more" atomic bombs before Japan had a chance to surrender.

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This doesn't surprise me, horrify me, or in any way change my opinion regarding the goodness and greatness of America.

I think we would both agree that the fighting in the Pacific was vicious, and that 13 or 22 percent of Americans would answer this way in response to a poll is in no way surprising or indicative of our national character or will.


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I agree 100%. Just like the people who are so bloodthirsty to "actively fight Islamo-facism" are in no way surprising or indicative of our national character or will.

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Im surprised nobody updated this.

Factions within the Sudan are calling for her execution. Factions in the Sudan don't talk out loud unless the Sudanese government are sympathetic to their message.

Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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Im surprised nobody updated this.

Factions within the Sudan are calling for her execution. Factions in the Sudan don't talk out loud unless the Sudanese government are sympathetic to their message.

Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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highly unlikely that is supported by the government. They're the ones that cut her sentence to 15 days in an attempt to appease both sides.

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Im surprised nobody updated this.

Factions within the Sudan are calling for her execution. Factions in the Sudan don't talk out loud unless the Sudanese government are sympathetic to their message.

Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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highly unlikely that is supported by the government. They're the ones that cut her sentence to 15 days in an attempt to appease both sides.

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There is a difference between "sympathetic" (belief) and "supported" (overt). You can be sure that one of the most savage and corrupt governments in the world is sympathetic, or their non-support would have been quite visible by now.

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Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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Yes, he lives in Atlanta teaching at Emory.

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Im surprised nobody updated this.

Factions within the Sudan are calling for her execution. Factions in the Sudan don't talk out loud unless the Sudanese government are sympathetic to their message.

Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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Updated: and here for your reading pleasure are excerpts about the crowd:

"KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) - Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of a British teacher Friday and demanded her execution for insulting Islam by letting her students name a teddy bear Muhammad...

Many in the protesting crowd shouted "Kill her! Kill her by firing squad!"...

Protesters dismissed Gibbons' claims that she didn't mean to insult the prophet.

"It is a premeditated action, and this unbeliever thinks that she can fool us?" said Yassin Mubarak, a young dreadlocked man swathed in green and carrying a sword. "What she did requires her life to be taken."

...several thousand people converged on Khartoum's Martyrs Square, near the presidential palace, and began calling for Gibbons' execution. Many seemed to be from Sufi groups, religious sects that emphasize reverence for the prophet.

Some angrily denounced the teacher, but others smiled as they beat drums and burned newspapers with Gibbons' picture, waving swords and clubs and green banners, the color of Islam...

Chants of "Kill her!" and "No tolerance: Execution!" rang out as hundreds of police in riot gear stood by, keeping the crowd contained but not moving against the rally."

AP article

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Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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Yes, he lives in Atlanta teaching at Emory.

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You miss the point.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/i...=22&sp=true

Cliff notes: British teacher and her class name a teddy bear Mohammad, mobs form in Sudan demanding that she be killed.

There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us. But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad are going to just leave us alone? Of course not. These people are completely irrational and are bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it.

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If you went out and fought everybody that WANTED to hurt you would be dead. Please factor in the chances that they atually are able to do anything to you.

There are millions of people in jail that would rob you or hurt you IF THEY COULD, are you going to fight all of them as well?

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http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/i...=22&sp=true

Cliff notes: British teacher and her class name a teddy bear Mohammad, mobs form in Sudan demanding that she be killed.

There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us. But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad are going to just leave us alone? Of course not. These people are completely irrational and are bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it.

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If you went out and fought everybody that WANTED to hurt you would be dead. Please factor in the chances that they atually are able to do anything to you.



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Tell it to the families of the 215 colleagues of mine that died on 9/11.