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Doylestown 01-22-2006 11:58 PM

($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
I'm not at all worried about MP1 coming along, he isn't capable of a sophisticated smooth call here with AA or KK. Gun to my head CO is holding AK. Is avoiding a likely flip here really really bad?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t900)
Hero (t1305)
MP1 (t2865)
MP2 (t925)
CO (t1125)
Button (t930)
SB (t865)
BB (t1085)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t90</font>, MP1 calls t90, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t1125</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>

45suited 01-22-2006 11:59 PM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
Does the average player have KK+ here? I think not.

No way in hell am I folding this.

Put another way, does it look like he wants action or like he wants a fold? If he has KK or AA, God bless him, he gets my chips. I expect QQ to hold up very well against his range.

DMACM 01-23-2006 12:08 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
I doubt he has KK and REALLY doubt he has AA. I'd call.

wdcbooks 01-23-2006 12:18 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
You can never fold here. You will see AK far more often than any other single hand. Lest someone start bitching about not wanting to take coinflips, I might remind them that if you can strongly discount AA and KK then you should be giddy about getting it all in with a probable AK or lower pair.

bjb23 01-23-2006 12:21 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
as others have said, this is a call.

quite often, laggy players will be very aggressive with middle pairs so i expect to see AJ-AK/88-jj here a lot... and even sometimes a wider range of crap hands.

Eagles 01-23-2006 01:21 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
Insta call even if he has AK your %57 which is pretty good.

psyduck 01-23-2006 02:39 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
no freaking way do I fold this. ever.

I've seen GOOD players play AK like this, so I have no idea what range bad players have.

ALL__DAY 01-23-2006 03:03 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
It is not impossible to get away from QQ in level 1.

It is impossible here, however.

Scuba Chuck 01-23-2006 03:43 AM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
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Insta call even if he has AK your %57 which is pretty good.

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Wow, more consistent good advice from you.

Doylestown 01-23-2006 01:12 PM

Re: ($55) QQ Facing All In Reraise at level 2
 
I appreciate the input guys. I posted this hand because I wasn't sure if I did the correct thing. Obviously there hasn't been 1 response who would've folded so I'll trust you guys are right.

Humor me - my thought process: I really felt it was AK that pushed and I am wondering if my ROI is better served with T1200 and a skill edge w/ 8 players remaining vs. busting 40+ % of the time / T2K+ 60% of the time.

Can anybody help get into depth with the above. I really want to understand the thought process behind making the correct decision here (and please use AK for villain if applying math in this scenario). I want help thinking beyond auto-pilot pushbot for a moment. Thanks!


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