Home game ruling - was this guy a douche?
 

Drunk home tournament, extremely high stakes (we're talking 3 dollar buyin here, mkay?), going an hour or so, everyone is pretty smashed on cheap beer and doritos (balla), and this happens:

UTG guy who is a total newbie (we'll call him 'Bambi') calls UTG, folds round to douchy guy on the button (we'll call him 'Adolf') who raises 3xBB. Bambi calls. Flop comes K84 rainbow. Bambi checks, Adolf bets the pot, Bambi mulls it over and calls. Turn is a 2. Bambi checks, Adolf pots it, Bambi calls. River is an ace. Bambi checks, Adolf goes all in. Bambi looks confused and thinks for a good 2 minutes, before saying 'I call'.

Adolf instantly throws his J8 face up in the middle of the table, gestures to the pot and says 'take it'. Bambi says 'oh ok, cool!' and reaches for the pot, in doing so putting his Q10 face up on the table. Adolf goes apeshit, and starts saying 'my pot, my pot!' Brief argument ensues between Adolf and another player, with Bambi looking on bemusedly. Pot ends up being awarded to Adolf after a vote by the other players at the table.

My feeling was that the pot should have been Bambis. Whats the correct ruling?

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My feeling was that the pot should have been Bambis. Whats the correct ruling?

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The pot is Adolph's Not Bambi's. He never mucked his cards and all that mattters is the cards no matter what is said, if the cards were mucked, that is another story

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Bambi's.

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Adolph- "cards speak"

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Cards speak. If people want to open-fold, I go ahead and let them. But I make sure they do it before the pot is pushed. If more than one person has a live hand (including tabled), the showdown is not decided until the best hand is left standing. While he tabled his hand in frustration, he still made a claim to the pot, and that claim should be honored.

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Adolf folded, Bambi wins. But it's $3 so who really cares?

I take Adolf's throwing his cards into the middle and his statemnt of "take it" to imply he has conceded. If dealer is following proper procedures he should take Adolf's hand and put it into the muck. At this point only Bambi has a hand so it doesn't matter what he has.

Somebody feel free to correct me (intelligently please) if I'm mistaken in this.

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Tabled hand, cards speak. Could have said he had the SF, dosen't matter. Cards speak if they are tabled.

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Tabled hand, cards speak. Could have said he had the SF, dosen't matter. Cards speak if they are tabled.

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What if he had said "I fold" but other actions were the same?

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he folded. cards don't speak if a hand is folded, correct?