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cbboy 07-26-2007 10:42 PM

$400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
Villain is A___r___K on PP for the players that play there and know who he is. For those that don't know him, he is 23/17/2.5 over a decent sample.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $107.85
Hero (BB): $491.00
UTG: $433.10
CO: $451.00
BTN: $1,231.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $14.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $64.00</font>, UTG calls $48.00, SB folds

Flop: ($144) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero....</font>

What is the best line here? I was really confused in this situation and had no idea what the best line to take was... Thanks for your help.

Jay Riall 07-26-2007 10:44 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
Sick flop. I'd check/call and take it from there usually. This guys range is going to be pretty tight. Not too sure if thats a great line though.

AAismyfriend 07-26-2007 11:06 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
Yea I like c/cing here. If we bet this and get raised we might as well have K3o. I'd probably c/f to a large turn bet unimproved.

TNUC 07-26-2007 11:17 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
im villain in this hand but cant actually remember it or your sn but i think check folding to big turn bet unimproved would be pretty terribe vs me .

LuckyDice 07-26-2007 11:23 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
I'd bet/fold the flop for 100 if he's good. If you check/call flop I think he'll always be shoving the turn. At least this way you don't get bluffed out by like 88 or something.

tubasteve 07-26-2007 11:26 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
unless he has a straight you have at least 40% equity. i'd probably have to go with the hand against a villain with those stats, esp if he's good/aggro

Jay Riall 07-26-2007 11:28 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
If hes good his preflop range absolutely crushes our hand now. Man I have similar stats and usually pretty much every hand I have given preflop is now ahead. He won't have [censored] like 88 in his hand often enough to worry about getting bluffed.

ajloeffl 07-26-2007 11:35 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
You built an SPR of about 7 (read PNL). Against an aggressive opponent, I think you just need to get the money in by betting/calling any flop raise or betting flop/turn.

Against someone more straight forward, well, I may bet/fold the flop (so many draws, sets etc should auto all in here). If I'm not raised on the flop, then might was well just bet the turn all in. You would have too much in the pot vs stack size to just fold so might as well be you sticking it in.

Praetor 07-26-2007 11:44 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
check

cbboy 07-26-2007 11:48 PM

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 
[ QUOTE ]
check

[/ QUOTE ]
c/c? c/f?


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