zomg preflop hand
 

i'm rusty-

i'm bb w/ A8s.

FOUR LIMPERS (omg so many i haven't seen this many limpers since before online poker died) and then the SMALL BLIND CALLS. WOW FIVE. should i raise now or do you need reads and stuff?

this is full ring .5/1

Re: zomg preflop hand
 

i check because:

- position sucks
- sometimes A8s hits the board hard, but more often you hit something marginal (a pair of As with a marginal kicker or second pair) in a pot you've bloated, and did i mention you're oop?

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just check ur option

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when does the raise happen w/5 ppl for you?

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when does the raise happen w/5 ppl for you?

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Better position or a better hand. And by "better hand" I don't mean high pockets and suited broadways, I simply mean a hand that I'm going to be able to play confidently after the flop...87s might meet that criteria, fer instance. (I know you know that I know that you know this, but I put it in for benefit of the next nOOb that reads this thread and responds, "ZOMGBBQELEVEN!!!111!1 You raise 87s from the BB?!"

Unless the opponents are a level of gawdawful rarely seen outside the 2/4 table at Commerce......

Re: zomg preflop hand
 

this was just discussed in a deucescracked thread, actually:

http://www.deucescracked.com/Poker-F...ssed-yesterday


here is my approximate range (in white, in case you want to play along in the DC thread): <font color="white">AA-TT, sometimes 99, ATs+, sometimes A9s, KQs, sometimes KJs.</font>

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when does the raise happen w/5 ppl for you?

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Premium hands &amp; sooted connectors. Including sexy stuff like 74s.

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zomg titaholic hand post

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FYT

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Check it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I need at least 21 limpers to raise this from the blinds.

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I need at least 21 limpers to raise this from the blinds.

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Actually, this the completely wrong way around. Your pf-edge decreases with every additional limper and is just about non-existent with more than 3 or so in the pot.

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I used to raise, but now I check. There are more than a few flops I will bet with this hand, and a few flops I will try and check raise, and a number of flops I will check/fold, and a variety of flops I will check/call.

But preflop is, well, you know.....

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I'm generally pretty happy to check here.

OOP being a good reason.

Also, if i find a flop to my liking I seem to be able to either value bet, or "check&amp;see", with much more success in an unraised pot.

Does that make sense?

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zomg titaholic hand post

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FYT

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i'm back biznitchles.
it wasn't a great hand post, but it's a start.

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I used to raise, but now I check. There are more than a few flops I will bet with this hand, and a few flops I will try and check raise, and a number of flops I will check/fold, and a variety of flops I will check/call.

But preflop is, well, you know.....the only important street in lhe because postflop is easy

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fyp, yo

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this was just discussed in a deucescracked thread, actually:

http://www.deucescracked.com/Poker-F...ssed-yesterday


here is my approximate range (in white, in case you want to play along in the DC thread): <font color="white">AA-TT, sometimes 99, ATs+, sometimes A9s, KQs, sometimes KJs.</font>

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is this good thread/forum?
please to be telling me what is the deucescracked?

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thanks for replies all.

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is this good thread/forum?
please to be telling me what is the deucescracked?

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basically, it's entity, deathdonkey, and joe tall's coaching video site. some of the micros sophomores seem to be posting over there. my name came up because i'm working with tt and one of tt's coaching students, and tt is a big fan of the dudes i mentioned above.

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is this good thread/forum?
please to be telling me what is the deucescracked?

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basically, it's entity, deathdonkey, and joe tall's coaching video site. some of the micros sophomores seem to be posting over there. my name came up because i'm working with tt and one of tt's coaching students, and tt is a big fan of the dudes i mentioned above.

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nice.