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Kukla 11-19-2007 05:53 AM

50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
My stats is 19/15/2.5
BB is 55/10/4.8 (9.3/2.3/5.5) ->he donks every pot, may bet all street with air and of course he don't like to fold his hands [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] 80 hands
MP3 28/14/0.8(0.8/1/1) only 64 hands






iPoker No-Limit Texas Hold'em (NL50), $0.50 BB (6 handed) SilverKitty Hand History converter by www.pokeronline.com.ua

Hero($56.5)
MP3($35.75)
CO($50)
Button ($49.25)
SB ($38.69)
BB($74.48)

SB: Post SB $0.25
BB: Post BB $0.50

Preflop:
Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC2222">Hero Raise $2</font>
MP3 Call $2
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>
BB Call $1.5

Flop:($6.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC2222">BB Bet $2.5</font>
Hero Call $2.5
MP3 Call $2.5

Turn:($13.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC2222">BB Bet $4</font>
Hero Call $4
<font color="blue"> I not raise here because my thought was if MP3 had weak jack or weak flush he may fold(mb i was wrong??? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img])</font>
<font color="#CC2222">MP3 Raise $20</font>
<font color="#CC2222">BB Raise $32</font>
Hero ???

Malifous 11-19-2007 06:13 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
Lol, misread the hand.

Nick Royale 11-19-2007 06:15 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
Probably raise the flop and most definately raise the turn.

Nick Royale 11-19-2007 06:15 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
[ QUOTE ]
instafold? Your flush might not be good, your gutshot might not be good. A/K are definely no good. Just fold and find a better spot.


[/ QUOTE ]
Uh huh?

Malifous 11-19-2007 06:24 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
I thought it was JhJd9hQd thats why i said to fold AKdd on that spot when theres sick action like that, But as you hit your flush its a call.

hockeyf 11-19-2007 07:44 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
A fold is ok here.

kav 11-19-2007 08:30 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
Raise the turn. You need to build the pot after you hit your flush and no one has showed much aggression. I don't care if mp3 fold his weak jack if I can get BB to put more money in the pot (20$ &gt; (2*$4)).

Kukla 11-19-2007 10:54 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
Pay attention that BB(bad player) has some more than full stack and MP just 35.75$ so we would have side pot with donk for 20.75$ and most of time we would higher than he.

munkey 11-19-2007 11:33 AM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
What's your plan for the turn when you're on the flop?

1st thought : Raise flop Jx trips will likely 3bet you and BB's flush draws call.

Though QJ got there on turn and 3way makes it more likely one has trips/boat and one a flush but I think I felt here vs these kinds of players. If you're 'calling turn u must shove turn IMHO else a tricky river on scary river cards for u and villan given potsize. The money is going in anyways.

I had a similar hand recently except it was 5 way to flop -and I didn't bet or raise - I think this is was a mistake though and raising flop is best here as it gives you more control and information - only problem with raising flop a 3bet can blow us off our hand.

Basically what I'm trying to say is there's the aggro and more passive calling flop route ( well with a more deecnt flop betsize by BB I would call in this particular hand) .If you play it the passive route which I think is o.k. too, then you have to fold turn - you went for a small/medium pot and didn't get it so folding is o.k. as played but as I said I would have played it differently.

Kukla 11-19-2007 12:10 PM

Re: 50NL:nuts flush on paired board vs 2 villain
 
Thx all for answers. Really i play bad this hand and raise on flop or turn seems would be best acton. In this hand like i play it, most of time it would be standart fold for me vs normal villains. But at that moment my thought was like:"Ok, BB donk + most of time i win sidepot from him and MP sometimes will have trips or low flush [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]" So i called this, MP3 showed 99 for full and BB showed.............A2o without diamond...stone cold bluff....heh, brave boy [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


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