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mariachiinc 08-10-2007 10:50 PM

Stars 180 tough spot
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t2485)
UTG (t495)
UTG+1 (t1555)
MP1 (t1340)
Hero (t2895)
MP3 (t3350)
CO (t3707)
Button (t3540)
SB (t1525)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t475) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t2335 (All-In)</font>, Hero ????

Jon_AK 08-10-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
I would insta call that... If you're beat, you're beat. The texture of that flop could give opponenet a lot of DRAWS. as far as made hands? not so much. people will often push all in on a flop like that with top pair just because of all the draws that are out there or they will push all in as a semi bluff (with a bazillion outs). If the BB had KK, QQ, or TT, or even AJ for that matter, I believe they would be reraising you preflop simply as a blind defense to a rather small 3x BB preflop raise. And if they really had a made hand would they bet that much? no. If you are beat, they played that hand VERY strangely and there isn't much you could do about it.

mariachiinc 08-10-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
AJ reraising? Come on... I'm in mp2, please if you aren't a winning player who knows what they are talking about don't post here....
"rather small 3x BB preflop raise...?" This would be a completely standard raise.
"And if they really had a made hand would they bet that much? no."... I'm pretty sure any made straight is going to bet VERY strong on this flop with flush draw and the fact that it likely hit the other players in some way.

LSgambler 08-10-2007 11:40 PM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
Insta call. He almost never makes that bet with AJ or a set. Usually its a something like a pair with a FD or OESD or worst two pair. I wouldnt be worried about CO at all cause your hand is just too strong to fold in a low buy-in tournament with a bunch of donks.

applejuicekid 08-10-2007 11:54 PM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
[ QUOTE ]
please if you aren't a winning player who knows what they are talking about don't post here....

[/ QUOTE ]

wow, show some class. His post isn't even that bad. We are all here to learn.

also, this hand is super trivial for any winning player.

bobbycharles 08-10-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
I think this is a call...and I'm whincing a little when I do. I think in the 3rd level of a donkament, most avg players slow play a made str8 and will push a draw. There's a thread on here somewhere about pushing a small edge, and I think you're ahead of his pushing range, so, yeah, cringe and call.

sledghammer 08-11-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
Instacall.

Irish Cannon 08-11-2007 12:33 AM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
I'm thinking BB either has Ad Td; possibly even sharing KQo. Instacall.

nbt23 08-11-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
def call...BB has KJ or diamonds

Hurrrr 08-11-2007 01:48 AM

Re: Stars 180 tough spot
 
A huge overpush on a scary board is never better than top two.


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