50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

Villain is 12/2/1.8 over 1375 hands

I took down an ok pot here at SD but I think that I had left many of villains chips in his stack and didn't get enough value for calling the raise to $5 in the first place.

Clearly the turn and then the river didn't help my cause!


What is the most effective way of extracting here, given villains stats do you think?

What about if he was 15/8/3?

Any good advice would be welcome.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($23.75)
BB ($62.40)
Hero ($83.35)
UTG+1 ($48.75)
MP1 ($56)
MP2 ($57.05)
CO ($12.95)
Button ($32.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.50, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($11.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($23.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

River: ($23.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, MP1 calls $11.

Final Pot: $45.25

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

I rarely see a hand butchered so badly. Every street is played horribly.

Raise pf; as played c/r flop; as played lead turn; as played bet more on the river.

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

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I rarely see a hand butchered so badly. Every street is played horribly.

Raise pf; as played c/r flop; as played lead turn; as crai on the river.

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Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

In order to "extract" you have to bet and or raise.

what sabr said..

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

The limp then calling a 10x raise is pretty bad.

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

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I rarely see a hand butchered so badly. Every street is played horribly.

Raise pf; as played c/r flop; as played lead turn; as played bet more on the river.

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+2

Have to start early to extract maximum value. I c/r this flop too and lead the turn.

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

Less butchery?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($49)
MP1 ($50.65)
MP2 ($10.25)
MP3 ($33.30)
CO ($71.90)
Button ($10.25)
SB ($31.65)
BB ($98)
Hero ($50.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($24.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $38.55</font>, UTG+1 calls $25 (All-In).

River: ($98.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $98.75

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

I didn't see all the straights on river so just betting more is good.

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

(Crap player alert...I apologise if what follows is nonsense)

By his stats he has QQ+ almost every time here, yes? That board allows him to put you on QA, QK (maybe), trying it on with JK, which he has beat, or even KK which he'll often have beat. Bet or check/raise. If you're that concerned a bet or check/raise will scare him off when you do hit your unlikely out, then should you be calling preflop in the first place? If he *does* run that scared then there's a good chance the turn is going to give him a lot more to worry about with phantom straights, *especially* since your check/call suggests a draw.

Re: 50NL Flopped set of 10\'s How do I extract maximum?
 

Re the original post, my cold call of villians raise must have just stunk of a set though once I go check raising the flop and I then I face the liklihood of him giving the hand up there and then with his stats???