A8, drawy flop
 

Villain is a 30/22 lagtag. I dont think hes that great, but hes not horrible either. Turn raise ok? Bet river?

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.67SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.33BB, 2 players)
BB checks,

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

I prefer 3-betting flop. Whats villian's AF? Too many scare cards he could check to you on the turn with.

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

No point in raising the turn if you don't bet the river.

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

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No point in raising the turn if you don't bet the river.

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Quick clarification on a few things. When we raise the turn, as in the example above, we are betting the river for value right? i.e we have our 66% equity.

In what situations are we raising the turn for a FSD, rather than value? When is it close between raising the turn for value and raising the turn for a fsd?

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

when the board is this nasty I usually avoid raising the turn if all i have is 1-pair, no draw. Reason is cuz some ppl overvalue their draws and will 3b 98 there. Exception is when I have overpair to the board cuz then I have a pretty decent draw to beat 2-pair.

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

I do like raising this turn but might ck behind riv. I could see lag playing hands w J or Q this way or T9 and plan on ck/r riv. This seems a little too thin to value bet imho.

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

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No point in raising the turn if you don't bet the river.

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Ya. bet river for value. I like waiting for the turn as well and I think vmacosta is a nit here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

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No point in raising the turn if you don't bet the river.

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Ya. bet river for value. I like waiting for the turn as well and I think vmacosta is a nit here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] nicest thing i've heard all week! though it hardly mean much coming from a danish slayer fan... [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

I b/c the river. He can have a lot of 8x, 7x etc. he will pay off with. He may also have complete trash like 9x. So if he CR I think we need to pay off (depending on ur exact read of course).

Re: A8, drawy flop
 

b/c seems like it would not be profitable on the river all that often?

My intial thought is to b/f but I play to passive on the river.