Limp, Shove, Call?
 

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t875)
UTG+1 (t1685)
MP1 (t805)
CO (t2535)
Button (t1390)
Hero (t3080)
BB (t3130)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="red">Button raises to t1390 (All-in)</font>, Hero ?,


Anyways I reshoved that hand and lost to button. This is the very next hand UTG is stupid.
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1685)
UTG+1 (t805)
MP1 (t2435)
CO (t2980)
Hero (t1690)
SB (t3030)
BB (t875)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t100, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t805 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Hero?

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

Hand 2 is a push for me. I think you dominate a reasonable portion of his range.

Hand 1 - I think this is sligtly +EV as long as villian is not tight/passive. I would be happy to get it in vs a lag. He is pushing a good amount of chips so you can probably take AA-QQ out of his range. I'd expect you to be flipping a lot of the time but I think you dominate him more than he dominates you. If this guy is capable of puhsing Ax or 87s then this is a real easy call.

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

for both of those, I put the raiser on a percent range of hands he would play in that spot. If my hand is in the upper portion of that range, I play, if it's not, I dont (obviose bubble considerations aside). I do the same thing in mtt's, but in those the number, stacksizes and playing tendencies of the players still to act becomes more important, as you want to avoid acward spots. bubble considerations dont inter into it in mtt's obv. other than they have an effect on the pushers range.

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

These are both clear folds. IMO.

Little John - What range do you think is being dominated by 99 please include pokerstove calculations plz?

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

i think 2 is a shove, not sure about 1

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

1 I am folding.

If I had the same chipstack as you did in 1 for 2, I would call, but for half of my stack (if not more with the UTG caller) making my next move all in or nothing, I am folding here.

Ryot, a LAG range might be

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,126,681,568 games 0.047 secs 45,248,544,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.016% 56.51% 00.50% 1201843656 10710672.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 42.984% 42.48% 00.50% 903416568 10710672.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, Q9s+, A9o+, KQo }

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I wouldn't put utg+1 on that, maybe CO/Button.

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

1 is a pretty easy fold.

Read on utg+1 in 2? He's shoving through a lot of people, so his range isn't that wide. Depends on the player though. I'd say fold.

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

Fold 1, Push 2

Re: Limp, Shove, Call?
 

#1 is either an clear fold or a fairly clear call. Almost always the former and almost certianly the right play here. You probably have to go with the 99 but folding certainly isn't out of the question.