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 Jeremy517 04-01-2007 07:18 PM

BTW where is everyone?

 KyrosMother 04-01-2007 07:18 PM

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At the moment, the only conclusion I have why the wolves killed Voj is to mislead the village. That his wolf list is wrong.

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Mark,

1) You think the wolves killed Voj to mislead the village.
2) You think that means Voj' wolf list (which I was on) was wrong.
3) But you are pushing me as a wolf and voting me.....

Wow!

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Mark??? Can you explain this thought process of yours?

 MDoranD 04-01-2007 07:18 PM

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At the moment, the only conclusion I have why the wolves killed Voj is to mislead the village. That his wolf list is wrong.

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Mark I think youre a villager but i think this is crazy talk. The wolves have lost 3 already including probably the 2 most powerful wolves, while they have yet to find our seer. To insinuate the wolves would do anything other than try to kill the seer with their kills is preposterous.

 Boiler_bd 04-01-2007 07:21 PM

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BTW where is everyone?

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Oh the irony.

 Jeremy517 04-01-2007 07:21 PM

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At the moment, the only conclusion I have why the wolves killed Voj is to mislead the village. That his wolf list is wrong.

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This post reminds me of All Information where I was a wolf, and in the thread, I "guessed" the reason for the night kill and just happened to guess the actual logic that we used.

 wdcbooks 04-01-2007 07:25 PM

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At the moment, the only conclusion I have why the wolves killed Voj is to mislead the village. That his wolf list is wrong.

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This post reminds me of All Information where I was a wolf, and in the thread, I "guessed" the reason for the night kill and just happened to guess the actual logic that we used.

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Not to mention that it is just about the least likely explanation possible. I had to go back like five pages to find Voj giving anything like a list. If the wolves were going to kill as a setup they would kill someone who was loudly and repeatedly wrong about a villager and who had cleared a wolf.

Voj was a seer hunt without question.

 xoom 04-01-2007 07:26 PM

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At the moment, the only conclusion I have why the wolves killed Voj is to mislead the village. That his wolf list is wrong.

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Mark,

1) You think the wolves killed Voj to mislead the village.
2) You think that means Voj' wolf list (which I was on) was wrong.
3) But you are pushing me as a wolf and voting me.....

Wow!

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Mark??? Can you explain this thought process of yours?

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There is six people on that list. If I we assume the wolves killed voj to mislead the village, it doesn't mean that every single piece of information on his list is wrong. Thinking you are a wolf and thinking the wolves killed voj to mislead the village isn't mutually exclusive.

 Mark_K 04-01-2007 07:27 PM

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At the moment, the only conclusion I have why the wolves killed Voj is to mislead the village. That his wolf list is wrong.

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Mark,

1) You think the wolves killed Voj to mislead the village.
2) You think that means Voj' wolf list (which I was on) was wrong.
3) But you are pushing me as a wolf and voting me.....

Wow!

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Yes I do realise this and I am troubled. It is a conflict that I'm not sure how to resolve. Maybe they really want us to lynch fmxda? I also realise my wolf read's are not 100% perfect and my read on you could be incorrect. If this is true, I really try hard to not wear blinders and I will eventually come around.

BTW, Thanks for the countif!

 MDoranD 04-01-2007 07:29 PM

 Jeremy517 04-01-2007 07:32 PM

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BTW, Thanks for the countif!

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We all appreciate the countif, but wow, that sounded forced.

 MDoranD 04-01-2007 07:32 PM

lets just lynch econo? Noone really seems to think hes a villager except luckay.

econo

 Mark_K 04-01-2007 07:33 PM

With all the above said... I'm still a big fan of a kumu lynch.

vote kumubou

 KyrosMother 04-01-2007 07:35 PM

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There is six people on that list. If I we assume the wolves killed voj to mislead the village, it doesn't mean that every single piece of information on his list is wrong. Thinking you are a wolf and thinking the wolves killed voj to mislead the village isn't mutually exclusive.

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I agree - but Mark's logic is incredibly twisted here. Voj had 6 suspects, voted FMX and the wolves killed him. I can understand someone saying, "Wow, Voj was on to something" and then voting FMX. I struggle, but can accept someone saying "It's a set-up" and not voting FMX. I only struggle with that, because the wolves have to be seer hunting at this point - one would think.

But I cannot see someone saying "His wolf list was wrong, so the wolves lynched him to mislead the village. I am now going to vote someone on his list." I really struggle to understand that logic.

 LuckayLuck 04-01-2007 07:36 PM

Let's just kill Kumu
It's "obvious", yet it's not getting done. This often indicates wolf.

 KyrosMother 04-01-2007 07:39 PM

FWIW - I downgraded Econ, as a result of his reaction laat night when Luckay claimed he had peeked Tied and people started to switch. Econ switched to boiler and when Books switched to Econ, he quickly replied "Die in a fire, you wolf" or something to that effect.

Maybe it was an angleshoot - but it didn't feel that way at the time.

 Boiler_bd 04-01-2007 07:40 PM

Econo is 1 million percent villager.

lynch xoom anyone?

 xoom 04-01-2007 07:44 PM

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Econo is 1 million percent villager.

lynch xoom anyone?

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Hm. Why wouldn't you just jump on an existing bandwagon if you are a wolf? You first vote fmxda with 1 vote and now me with zero votes..

 LuckayLuck 04-01-2007 07:45 PM

boiler-mason, xoom is no goot a vote for a reason which I cannot yet reveal

let's just go for kumu-on-a-roll

 Boiler_bd 04-01-2007 07:47 PM

kumu

 xoom 04-01-2007 07:52 PM

kumu while I reread. Luckay, why are you so sure boiler is a villager? He's been so quiet all game - and as far as I know that's unlike regular villager boiler.

 MDoranD 04-01-2007 07:53 PM

im not voting kumu based on whos voting for kumu

 Zurvan 04-01-2007 07:57 PM

You are voting kumu as a compromise candidate. This is bad. Compromise candidates are villagers. So is kumu. Mark is a wolf. Boiler is probably a wolf. FMX might be a wolf. Kumu is a villager.

And never ever ever listen to luckay. WW 101

 Boiler_bd 04-01-2007 07:57 PM

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kumu while I reread. Luckay, why are you so sure boiler is a villager? He's been so quiet all game - and as far as I know that's unlike regular villager boiler.

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If that is how I usually do it as a villager, why do you think I might change if I were evil?

 Zurvan 04-01-2007 07:59 PM

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Allow me to clarify, that's not what I mean.

Never listen to luckay when he's posting like this. His posts where he's trying to push people in a certain direction, pleading with people (ie, "boiler-mason") never turn out good. He's manipulating just to get his way.

When luckay is right, he's more reserved &amp; confident. &lt;-- This isn't the right words. Villager luckay has two tones. Right &amp; wrong. This is wrong Luckay.

 Boiler_bd 04-01-2007 08:00 PM

So I take it you are saying kumu is a villager Zurvan. Why?

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You are voting kumu as a compromise candidate. This is bad. Compromise candidates are villagers. So is kumu. Mark is a wolf. Boiler is probably a wolf. FMX might be a wolf. Kumu is a villager.

And never ever ever listen to luckay. WW 101

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+10 villager points for Zurv

 GetThere1Time 04-01-2007 08:01 PM

[0] Bluffblank
[3] boiler_bd voted for Kumubou
[0] Chuckleslovakian
[1] Econophile
[0] Fcblcomish voted for Sighing
[2] Fmxda
[0] Jeremy517 voted for Kumubou
<font color="red"> [5] Kumubou voted for Traz </font>
[0] Kyrosmother voted for boiler_bd
[1] Luckayluck voted for Kumubou
[1] mark_k voted for Kumubou
[0] Mdorand voted for Econophile
[0] Metsandfinsfan voted for boiler_bd
[0] Nez477 voted for Luckayluck
[2] Sighing
[0] Thebram voted for Fmxda
[1] Traz voted for Sighing
[0] Wdcbooks voted for Fmxda
[0] Xoom voted for Kumubou
[0] Zurvan voted for mark_k

All personal events should be caught up by now as well. Sorry for the delay all. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

 xoom 04-01-2007 08:03 PM

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kumu while I reread. Luckay, why are you so sure boiler is a villager? He's been so quiet all game - and as far as I know that's unlike regular villager boiler.

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If that is how I usually do it as a villager, why do you think I might change if I were evil?

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I guess people play wolves differently - unintentional or not. Why would you change if you were a villager?

I just realised that this logic is slightly flawed though. And your last couple of posts did seem villagery - especially the way you were jumping around with your votes. I'm willing to not vote you for now.

 Zurvan 04-01-2007 08:03 PM

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So I take it you are saying kumu is a villager Zurvan. Why?

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Because I think she's a villager. This is a carbon copy of her LOTR:TTT game. She got lynched there as a compromise/consensus lynch, because it was easy. It went down just like this, she didn't defend herself at all.

 Zurvan 04-01-2007 08:04 PM

I might want to edit my above statement to say "either xoom or boiler is a wolf, not both, but probably not neither".

 FCBLComish 04-01-2007 08:07 PM

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BTW where is everyone?

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In Pogglesburg paying taxes.

 xoom 04-01-2007 08:09 PM

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Because I think she's a villager. This is a carbon copy of her LOTR:TTT game. She got lynched there as a compromise/consensus lynch, because it was easy. It went down just like this, she didn't defend herself at all.

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Good point. And after reread I'm still putting her in the lean wolf catergory. Not much to go by, but too many low-content posts that I could see a wolf making.

 FCBLComish 04-01-2007 08:09 PM

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Econo is 1 million percent villager.

lynch xoom anyone?

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I would still like to know how Xoom was able to take over the group decision for the day in Vortex. Without this information, voting him makes no sense. Can anyone take a guess at how it happened?

 xoom 04-01-2007 08:11 PM

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Econo is 1 million percent villager.

lynch xoom anyone?

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I would still like to know how Xoom was able to take over the group decision for the day in Vortex. Without this information, voting him makes no sense. Can anyone take a guess at how it happened?

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I think it just got randed and I was the lucky winner.

 MDoranD 04-01-2007 08:12 PM

so the people voting kumu are:

boiler
jeremy
luckay
mark
xoom

doesnt exactly sound like a bunch of villagers. Can we please not lynch kumu???

 Boiler_bd 04-01-2007 08:12 PM

ok, I haven't gotten a wolf vibe from kum either Zurvan. I don't think kumu is the worst vote in the world though.

Traz or Jeremy anyone?

 KyrosMother 04-01-2007 08:12 PM

GT,

FMX is on Kumu. Kumu has 6.

 KyrosMother 04-01-2007 08:14 PM

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so the people voting kumu are:

boiler
jeremy
luckay
mark
xoom

doesnt exactly sound like a bunch of villagers. Can we please not lynch kumu???

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Yeah...Kumu's on my wolfy list and all, but the group voting her makes me a little queasy.

 FCBLComish 04-01-2007 08:16 PM

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Econo is 1 million percent villager.

lynch xoom anyone?

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I would still like to know how Xoom was able to take over the group decision for the day in Vortex. Without this information, voting him makes no sense. Can anyone take a guess at how it happened?

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I think it just got randed and I was the lucky winner.

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So, you are not some sort of King or Emperor then? Did some watery tart lob a scimitar at you or something?

 Mark_K 04-01-2007 08:17 PM

BTW, I repeat if Voj was a seer hunt. Why did they pick him. He sure was not acting like a seer. He had ZERO comments on who he thought was a villager the whole game. All he did was push for Zurvan, Jared, and KM... With a little Luckay mixed in. Then he made the above (in)famous quote pointing to fmxda...

We really only have two possiblities:
1. Wolves were trying the deceive us and the above are villagers
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2. He nailed some wolves

Time will reveal the truth...

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