50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

CO is 32/19/2.5 and is not stupid. He has 3bet my LP opens a bunch of times to a more standard amount; this is the first time that he has 3bet so small.

What is a good line here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($9.20)
SB ($63.85)
BB ($50)
UTG ($56.60)
Hero ($170.55)
CO ($83.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $17</font>, CO calls $11.50.

Flop: ($35.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

I put his range on AA, KK, QQ, or AK. We are ahead of 2 of these hands, far behind one, and tied with another one. We have to lead out here, around 28 or 30. If he shoves, I think we're really looking at AA or KK. This is a tough spot, but I really don't think i can fold AA, given that there's only really one realistic hand that beats us here.

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

Hero bet/calls all-in?

You really shouldn't find a fold given pre-flop and effective stack sizes. And you say CO is not stupid but he looks stupid enough in his pf behavior (notably his call of your 4-bet, which he should be doing with no hands except occasionally the other AA.)

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

I am going to assume AK is also plausible here, so I too would probably stack off here. If he shows you KK, that sucks but once you bet 24-30 here, are you honestly folding? There is always the option to check here. I have been doing that once in a while here for pot control, but I am not even sure if a check would make a difference. With the pot this size already and if he has QQ or JJ, I do not think a normal size bet will be called by either one of those whether you bet flop or not. I guess in the end I bet/call a shove expecting to be ahead 50% and behind 50%.

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

Bet $25 or so... If he calls you can put him all-in with a half-potsized bet giving him nice odds. He's already committed by that point anyway. Call any shove obv, AK is def in his range.

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

I bet here and call a shove. We are ahead of his range: AA, KK, AK, QQ, JJ.

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

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I put his range on AA, KK, QQ, or AK. We are ahead of 2 of these hands, far behind one, and tied with another one. We have to lead out here, around 28 or 30. If he shoves, I think we're really looking at AA or KK. This is a tough spot, but I really don't think i can fold AA, given that there's only really one realistic hand that beats us here.

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If we make that his range, then given the flop and Hero's hole cards, there is one way he can have AA, 3 ways he can have KK, 6 ways he can have AK, and 6 ways he can have QQ, so we are ahead of 75% of his range, behind 19% of his range, and tied with 6% of his range.

If he shoves, that might allow us to eliminate QQ from his range, but AK is still 60% of the remaining range (with KK 30% and AA 10%).

We should definitely try to get it all in here.

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

Bet close to pot and call a shove. Hes already committed 20% in on the flop.

Re: 50NL - Deepish 4bet pot with a lol flop
 

Given that we have given him a very tight range, what about checking? We aren't afraid of any turn cards unless he has exactly AcKc, and we might get more value from QQ by checking. Or is that just FPS?