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chucky 05-30-2006 06:22 PM

Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
I called/reraised because i have come to believe that on PLO 25, one pot raise is not enough to knock most people out of the hand preflop. At the end of this hand is what the bb said to me after the hand.
Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
7 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
UTG: $47.30
UTG+1: $24.50
phanekim: $14.11
CO: $17.60
Button: $31.84
SB: $24.75
BB: $38.24


Pre-flop: (7 players) phanekim is MP1 with 5h Jc Ac Ah
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, phanekim calls, CO raises to $1.35, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, phanekim raises to $8.1, CO calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.


Flop: 5d 3c 4s ($33.75, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, phanekim is all-in $6.01, CO raises all-in $9.5.
Uncalled bets: $3.49 returned to CO.


Turn: 3s ($45.77, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $45.77)



River: Qc ($45.77, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $45.77)



Results:
Final pot: $45.77

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
7 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
UTG: $47.30
UTG+1: $24.50
phanekim: $14.11
CO: $17.60
Button: $31.84
SB: $24.75
BB: $38.24


Pre-flop: (7 players) phanekim is MP1 with 5h Jc Ac Ah
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, phanekim calls, CO raises to $1.35, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, phanekim raises to $8.1, CO calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.


Flop: 5d 3c 4s ($33.75, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, phanekim is all-in $6.01, CO raises all-in $9.5.
Uncalled bets: $3.49 returned to CO.


Turn: 3s ($45.77, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $45.77)



River: Qc ($45.77, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $45.77)



Results:
Final pot: $45.77


TankdaFrank815: ur an idiot
TankdaFrank815: y not just raise the aces urself
Phanekim: me?
TankdaFrank815: yea
TankdaFrank815: more times then not u will go bust if u do that and 4 people call

liquid 05-30-2006 06:34 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
Should you have limp-raised from middle position with AAxx single-suited, acting last after the original PF raiser (though you don't note CO's PF raising range), given the opportunity to get >50% of your stack in, with plenty of dead money in the pot?

No, bad move. You might tick off someone who called the original raise, folded to the re-raise, and would have hit if he'd stayed in. And then he might type mean things in the chat.

chucky 05-30-2006 06:43 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
Lol. I was double suited, but the reason why i didnt mention Co's range is that he hadnt potted preflop before.

liquid 05-30-2006 06:49 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
Sure enough, double suited. Good on you mate.

p.s. I failed to mention that most tragic of all, you might then be tempted to seek validation in the PLO forum. And you know how those guys are.

piiop 05-30-2006 06:50 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
Who cares what some random tard says to you.

greatwhite 05-30-2006 06:59 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
I might raise in MP1 if stealing the button is possible. If not AAds is pretty good. However, I don't like check-raising. To do this I want to get a higher percentage of my stack in. Also, keep a deeper stack with you. If your going to play a $25 big bet poker game try to have $25 at all times.

Slap My Jack 05-30-2006 06:59 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
I read in another post today that at least for intermediate players (or lower stakes) that this is a good move. And I've done it myself a couple times today, each time getting most of their stack in as a dog and pushing the rest in on the flop still ahead of them to win the hand.

Each time they sucked out (running quads, and another guy hit his 1-outter for quads). But that's alright.

+

You're just trying to get your money in when you're a favorite, and have them make a mistake by getting it in with the worst of it.

Ribbo 05-30-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
Why waste your time talking in the chat box? A lot of players talk trash because you're playing a way THEY DON'T LIKE. So keep doing it. They want you to be really obvious with your hands so they don't have to make horrible decisions.
If someone wants to whine, then just ignore and take his money while he is busy typing instead of paying attention to the action at the table.

Spellmen 05-30-2006 08:09 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
Standard given stacks

RickyG 05-30-2006 09:03 PM

Re: Got chewed out for call/re-raise preflop; Good move?
 
summary without chat is your friend.


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